> The good engineers in india know their value and get it.

The job market is not that efficient anywhere, especially India. Lots of people work their way up from crappy jobs to good ones, just like in the US.

>My company has offices in india because you have to manage them yourself not use middlemen. You can train the locals to be great managers (at least some).

"some members of this primitive tribe can be taught our sophisticated ways"

The issue with middlemen is they are basically labor arbitrageurs and have an incentive to hire the cheapest people possible and inflate their credentials/abilities. Same thing happens with onshore consulting firms.

>wages for good people in india are worse similar people in the us, but often high than in europe.

"Often higher than Europe" is a stretch. Typical big co with an India office pays maybe 20-30k USD per year for an engineer. And that is a good job relatively speaking. Top tech companies pay more but they also pay more in Europe