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overfeed 3 hours ago

Perhaps you should pay attention to where the puck is going to be, rather than where it is currently. Lots of original ideas are coming out of Chinese AI research[1], denying this betrays some level of cope.

1. e.g. select any DeepSeek release, and read the accompanying paper

jacquesm 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'll pay attention to where the puck is because that is something I can observe, where it is going to be is anybody's guess. Lots of original ideas are coming out of Chinese AI research but there is also lots of junk. I think in the longer term they will have the advantage but right now that simply isn't the case.

Your 'cope' accusation has no place here, I have no dog in the race and do not need to cope with anything.

overfeed 24 minutes ago | parent [-]

> Your 'cope' accusation has no place here

I will rephrase my statement and continue to stand by it: "Denying the volume of original AI research being done by China - a falsifiable metric - betrays some level of cope."

You seem to agree on the fact that China has surpassed the US. As for quality, I'll say expertise is a result of execution. At some point in time during off-shoring, the US had qualitatively better machinists that China, despite manufacturing volumes. That is no longer the case today - as they say, cream floats to the top, and that holds true for a pot or an industrial-sized vat.

sieabahlpark 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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