This is the typical arrogance of developers not seeing the value in anything but the coding. I've been hands on for 45 years, but also spend 25 of those dealing with architecture and larger systems design. The actual programming is by far the simplest part of designing a large system. Outsourcing it is only dumbing you down if you don't spend the time it frees up to move up the value chain.

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wiseowise 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Talk about arrogance, Mr 45 years of experience. Ever thought that there might be people under skyscraper that is your ego? I’m pretty sure majority of tech workers aren’t even 45 years old. Where are they supposed to learn good design when slop takes over? You’ve spent at least 20 years JUST programming, assuming you’ve never touched large scale design before last 25 years. Simplest part my ass.

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vidarh an hour ago | parent [-]

> Ever thought that there might be people under skyscraper that is your ego?

I do, which is exactly why I found the presumption that not spending your time doing the coding is equivalent to a disability both gross and arrogant.

> Where are they supposed to learn good design when slop takes over?

You're not learning good architecture and systems design from code. You learn good architecture and systems design from doing architecture and systems design. It's a very different discipline.

While knowing how to code can be helpful, and can even be important in narrow niches, it is a very minor part of understanding good architecture.

And, yes, I stand by the claim the coding is by far the simplest part, on the basis of having done both for longer than most developers have been doing either.

	▲	wiseowise an hour ago \| parent [-]
		> And, yes, I stand by the claim the coding is by far the simplest part, on the basis of having done both for longer than most developers have been doing either. Doubling down on your ignorance, bold strategy.