| ▲ | morley 4 hours ago | |||||||||||||
I think this is a distinction between comedy and non-comedy genres. There are many examples of protags in American comedies who never get their way -- Party Down, Seinfeld, Always Sunny. Part of this is the need for American sitcoms to maintain the status quo over dozens of episodes / several seasons. You rarely see Hollywood action heroes who are beset with unrelenting disappointment -- they usually go through hell, but by the end of the third act, achieve some sort of triumph. A notable counterexample is Sicario, but I wouldn't call it a "Hollywood action movie." | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | drdec 4 hours ago | parent [-] | |||||||||||||
In the first Indiana Jones, the hero makes no positive contribution to the outcome in the end. He is just along for the ride. To be fair, it requires a little bit of thinking to see. The general audience might see it as success because the outcome was "good" even if it had nothing to do with anything Jones did. | ||||||||||||||
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