Those are primarily associated with DMT (the one time I tried it, I too had such an encounter and I didn't know it was a thing until years later).

I'm sure I'll be corrected on this but I think DMT and Psilocybin ultimately affect the same pathways so it's just more evidence that Machine Elves are real! (/s on the real part).

WarmWash 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They are both serotonin analogues, but they definitely yield different experiences.

In chemistry it often only takes a single atom difference to totally and radically change a molecule's properties.

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Teknomadix 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>“It's not psilocybin that's giving the L. asiatica mushrooms their lilliputian effect”

Unknown compound ATM.

	▲	pstuart 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yeah, my comment was a bit loose, but I think it's likely that the pathways are ultimately arriving at the same destination. I've done plenty of psychonaut adventures in the past but it was only that one experience with DMT that actually gave that experience -- but it was also the only time in which I completely disengaged from local reality.

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emymin 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The mushrooms that the article talks about do not contain psilocybin (it's still not clear what psychoactive compound they contain), but you are correct in that DMT and psilocybin, at comparable doses, have extremely similar subjective effects.

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Teknomadix 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Avid conosour of both DMT and Psilocybin and would not characterize the effects as “extremely similar”. Psychedelic yes, but profoundly different at their core in heroic doses—at least from my vantage point.

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tastyfreeze 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Just curious, nn-DMT or 5meo-DMT? I haven't tried either but have heard nn-DMT to be more the machine elves type experience and 5meo-DMT to elicit a feeling of not existing in the physical world anymore.

	▲	temp0826 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Usually when people just say DMT they mean nn-DMT (which is a lot more visual/weird and can bring on the "elves" at breakthrough dosage). 5-meo-dmt(/bufo) is much more of a felt thing, but can definitely have some visual effects (I usually get enveloped in the bright white light of god before dissolving into everything/nothing, ymmv).

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pstuart 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Same vantage point here (with sample size n=1 on the DMT front).