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AlanYx 7 hours ago

The phenomenon Adams is talking about here is largely a post-WW1 phenomenon in UK culture, related to the post-WW1 malaise. His best examples are post-WW1 (Paul Pennyfeather, Tony Last, and the book by Stephen Pile). The others arguably don't really fit (e.g., the core delight in Gulliver is the reader thinking they are smarter than Gulliver; the reader doesn't identify with him). It's not exactly a new observation... one of the motivations both Tolkien and CS Lewis had for strong characters like Aragorn was to present examples falling outside this cultural drift.

RcouF1uZ4gsC 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes. See also Fleming’s James Bond. Dickens’ Nicholas Nickleby. *

This phenomenon is post-WWI and post-WWII and losing the greatest empire in history in a single generation trauma being retconned as if were the historical English perspective.

* Removed previously incorrect statement including Edgar Rice Burroughs who is an American although Tarzan is English

bloak 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Edgar Rice Burroughs lived his entire life in the USA, right?

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RcouF1uZ4gsC 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You are right. Updated the post

AlanYx 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm not sure I understand the Burroughs example as relevant to the UK, but another good illustration is Thomas Hardy. His books sold well but were never seen as consistent with the UK cultural mainstream, and the reaction to Jude the Obscure in 1895 stopped him from writing novels entirely. Yet post-WWI he came to be seen/adopted as a mainstream cultural icon.

RcouF1uZ4gsC 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Good example of Hardy and the reception reflects the cultural change