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lateforwork 12 hours ago

GOP has long pursued a strategy of getting rural whites to vote against their self interest. This is why they play up cultural issues such as trans people using women's bathrooms and such other topics that uneducated people can readily grasp.

Spooky23 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It’s easy to say that. I grew up in a dairy county in upstate ny. Solid democrats. The board room of the local farm bureau had photos of FDR on the wall.

The party really abandoned rural voters and farmers. Money in politics didn’t just affect Republicans — the democrats abandoned the traditional party structures and followed the money. There’s no more democratic picnics, etc.

I’m not defending the GOP. They’ve embraced evil imo. But people followed their message because nobody else is talking to them.

insane_dreamer 10 hours ago | parent [-]

> The party really abandoned rural voters and farmers.

Not to defend the Dem party (only the lesser of two evils, at least lately), but in what way? Because farm subsidies seem fairly consistent regardless of which party was in power[0]

[0] https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/farm-economy/farm-commodity-...

mlrtime 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Can urban liberals please tell us how to vote? You can come and help our fingers push the buttons.

Seriously, do you think this works? Do you think urban people living in poverty vote against their interests as well?

lateforwork an hour ago | parent [-]

You should read "What's the Matter with Kansas?" by Thomas Frank [1] that discusses this topic at length. Yes, I do think it works: It is possible to persuade people to vote against their material or economic self-interest by inflaming passions around simple, emotionally charged "hot-button" topics that are easy for most voters to understand and react to instinctively.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Whats-Matter-Kansas-Conservatives-Ame...

insane_dreamer 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I suppose they've successfully instilled the fear that "our way of life" will be destroyed if they don't vote for Trump, despite 1) being a lie, and 2) a vote that will make things worse for them. It's amazing how powerful these relatively minor cultural issues can be. It certainly makes for interesting case studies for future political science and sociology university (if the humanities survive).

xienze 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> instilled the fear that "our way of life" will be destroyed if they don't vote for Trump, despite 1) being a lie

You may find this hard to believe, but there are a lot of people old enough to see how rapidly "our way of life" has gone down the toilet. It's not a myth, it's happening.

lateforwork an hour ago | parent [-]

Are you talking about manufacturing jobs going away, or something else?