| ▲ | softwaredoug 13 hours ago | |||||||||||||
Druids used to decry that literacy caused people to lose their ability to memorize sacred teachings. And they’re right! But literacy still happened and we’re all either dumber or smarter for it. | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | alt187 13 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||
It's more complex than that. The three pillars of learning are theory (finding out about the thing), practice (doing the thing) and metacognition (being right, or more importantly, wrong. And correcting yourself.). Each of those steps reinforce neural pathways. They're all essential in some form or another. Literacy, books, saving your knowledge somewhere else removes the burden of remembering everything in your head. But they don't come into effect into any of those processes. So it's an immensely bad metaphor. A more apt one is the GPS, that only leaves you with practice. That's where LLMs come in, and obliterate every single one of those pillars on any mental skill. You never have to learn a thing deeply, because it's doing the knowing for you. You never have to practice, because the LLM does all the writing for you. And of course, when it's wrong, you're not wrong. So nothing you learn. There are ways to exploit LLMs to make your brain grow, instead of shrink. You could make them into personalized teachers, catering to each student at their own rhythm. Make them give you problems, instead of ready-made solutions. Only employ them for tasks you already know how to make perfectly. Don't depend on them. But this isn't the future OpenAI or Anthropic are gonna gift us. Not today, and not in a hundred years, because it's always gonna be more profitable to run a sycophant. If we want LLMs to be the "better" instead of the "worse", we'll have to fight for it. | ||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | giancarlostoro 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
Smartphones I think did the most damage. Used to be you had to memorize people's phone numbers. I'm sure other things like memorizing how to get from your house to someone else is also less cognitive when the GPS just tells you every time, instead of you busting out a map, and thinking about your route. I've often found that if I preview a route I'm supposed to take, and use Google Street Maps to physically view key / unfamiliar parts of my route, I am drastically less likely to get lost, because "oh this looks familiar! I turn right here!" My wife had a similar experience, she had some college project where they had to drive up and down some roads and write about it, it was a group project, and she bought a map, and noticed that after reading the map she was more knowledgeable about the area than her sister who also grew up in the same area. I think AI is a great opportunity for learning more about your subjects in question from books, and maybe even the AI themselves by asking for sources, always validate your intel from more authoritative sources. The AI just saved you 10 minutes? You can spend those 10 minutes reading the source material. | ||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | otikik 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
The ability is still there. My son dutifully memorizes all the lyrics of his favorite band’s songs. What the druids/piests were really decrying was that people spent less time and attention on them. Religion was the first attention economy. | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | timeon 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
This comment sounds like distraction from the topic. Analogy is plausible but is not the real thing. | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | EGreg 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||
Druids? Socrates was famously against books far earlier. Funny enough, the reason he gave against books has now finally been addressed by LLMs. | ||||||||||||||
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