| ▲ | hi_hi 5 hours ago |
| From the previous press about the aquisition: BendingSpoon CEO: "At Bending Spoons, we acquire companies with the expectation of owning and operating them indefinitely, and we look forward to realizing Vimeo’s full potential as we reach new heights together" Vimeo CEO: "We are excited about this partnership, which we believe will unlock even greater focus for our team and customers as we continue to strive towards our global mission to be the most innovative and trusted video platform in the world for businesses" Words no longer appear to mean things. While this isn't a surprise, it provides another data point that there can be no trust given to leaders words. I find it sad as it simply re-inforces this behaviour and normalises it. |
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| ▲ | cowsandmilk 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Nothing the bending spoons ceo said isn’t true. They are still operating Vimeo. |
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| ▲ | maint 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I worked at one of the companies that were acquired by Bending Spoons and really the only positive things I can say about them is: They are honest and stick to their word. It's a shitty business model, run by people who do not, in any way shape or form, care about people at all. But they are honest. So if you work at a company and BS comes knocking: relax, accept the severance money and start looking for something new. It will be over soon. And you also don't want to stay even if offered because it will be an entirely alien environment where only people of a certain character can work. | |
| ▲ | Invictus0 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | There's a large contingent on hacker news that still thinks it's some kind of moral failure to fire people | | |
| ▲ | Quarrelsome 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | some people look at business as making money for the sake of making money. However other people look at making money as a means to better society. This goes back over a century to the Quaker run businesses, like Lloyds, Rowntree, Cadburys, etc. You can imagine if your ultimate aim was to improve society, then acquiring a firm but having to sack a bunch of employees as somewhat of a failure. | | |
| ▲ | fsckboy an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | >some people look at business as making money for the sake of making money. However other people look at making money as a means to better society. if the two sides you describe agree on those definitions as mutually exclusive but in union describing the universal set of people, then they are both wrong. as long as people engaged in a market make their own choices, then money is a direct measure of happiness on the margin. you give somebody your money in exchange for something you want and would rather have: this creates happiness out of thin air. if you think a better society is a happier society, then going into business to make money is the same as going into business to make society better. | | |
| ▲ | HKH2 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Society depends on long-term 'happiness'. Short-term 'happiness' often makes society worse. | |
| ▲ | mindslight 27 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | > as long as people engaged in a market make their own choices, then money is a direct measure of happiness on the margin That is a big if which is straightforwardly false. This idea of market participants' choices being entirely free rests on the efficient market fallacy [0]. Whereas the reality is that even the structure of a market itself creates friction. One of the main points of business schools is learning how to recognize and take advantage of this structural friction, which business people then conveniently forget when it's time to assuage their own egos regarding their counterparties. [0] which is basically in the realm of asserting P == NP. The supreme irony is that if the efficient market fallacy were true, then central planning would also work as well! |
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| ▲ | Invictus0 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Option A: the business goes bankrupt, investors lose money, customers lose the product, all employees get fired. Option B: the business stays afloat, investors make money, customers keep the product, some employees get fired with a severance. You think option A is superior? | | |
| ▲ | supoxblade 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Here's the rub: Vimeo was profitable, and had no debt. Per their last public filing(s), in 2025 the company had:
- ~$400M expenses
- ~$420M revenue (therefore ~$20M profit for the year)
- ~$300M of cash in the bank (no debt) Vimeo has not had major growth in recent years, but it was making progress, however slowly. Just nowhere near the 10x expectations out there. Nobody was going to lose anything. | | |
| ▲ | makeitrain 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | For a company that makes a flat $20 mil per year, how long will it take to make back the $1.4 billion they paid for it? |
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| ▲ | serf 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | it's not immoral to fire people. it's immoral to lie to people. very few people can do the mental gymnastics required to equate " we look forward to realizing Vimeo’s full potential as we reach new heights together " to "you're all getting fired." at some point in the now far-distant past CEOs used to make heartfelt speeches and memos to a soon-to-be-downsized staff about how hard decisions had to be made and blah-blah-blah; now it's more about sequestering the decision makers away from the damaged goods while projecting daisies and sunshine for would-be investors. The game has shifted far from the human factor into a purely financial/investor loop. Good for some people but generally worse for people . And before I hear it : Yes it was always about money, but business wasn't always about investors . That projection of liability to a remote party is exactly the issue. | | |
| ▲ | hi_hi 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | This was exactly my sentiment. Going from "you're fine" to "you're fired", when it was always going to be "you're fired". | |
| ▲ | x0x0 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Bending Spoon's business model has been -- at least for a decade -- buying companies that didn't operate profitably; stopping or slowing ongoing eng investments; and operating them profitably. Often that involves raising prices, but everyone is adults here. Nobody lied. Vimeo will continue to operate, and probably will even have targeted ongoing development. | |
| ▲ | csallen 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | Remnant44 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | While you may be correct in the sense that, in a public acquisition statement, people should be inferring enormous context and not taking anything said at face value. It's simultaneously true that this is the farthest thing from effective, honest, and clear communication. Reading between the lines here is required precisely because we all know that any acquisition statements made are, at best heavily coded, if not completely just fluff. You can recognize that and still get angry that it's par for the course for such things to be not just devoid of useful information, but often actively deceiving. | | |
| ▲ | aeonfox 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > Reading between the lines Tbf, and in support of your broader point, there's no reading between the lines, because genuine intent is indistinguishable from deception with this kind of stuff, because the latter imitates the former. There's only expecting the worst, and being only occasionally wrong. | |
| ▲ | csallen 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yeah I agree, I don't think anyone is a fan of this fluff |
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| ▲ | nehal3m 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You're not wrong, but how screwed up is it that we expect leadership at companies we spend most of our waking time on to bullshit through their teeth at the people that make the damn thing work in the first place? I'm so tired of the investor driven economy. |
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| ▲ | bagels 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Obviously sometimes a business is unsustainable, and it's unavoidable, but it's pretty sociopathic to not consider that people are harmed by being laid off. | | |
| ▲ | Invictus0 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | They are literally not harmed. The end of an at-will employment agreement is not a harm. |
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| ▲ | growt 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| After reading through the other comments about bending spoons and reading yours again: the bending spoons CEO is technically telling the truth! They intend to run the acquired companies forever. After cutting most of the staff, but he didn’t say that part of course. |
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| ▲ | csallen 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I wouldn't even say it's "technically" the truth. It's just the truth. Nothing in the statement even comes close to implying that there wouldn't be layoffs. Hell, one of the quotes even mentions "focus", which if anything is a euphemism or hint for downsizing in these kinds of statements, not the opposite. | | |
| ▲ | onemoresoop 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | "excited about this partnership, which we believe will unlock even greater focus for our team and customers as we continue to strive towards our global mission to be the most innovative and trusted video platform in the world for businesses" There's no hint of laying off all the staff here though. Now it sounds like they "were" excited to lay off people to maximize profits. Maybe "unlock even greater focus for our team" means to unlock their focus to find other jobs but it's quite perverse. I agree with the OP, that "Words no longer appear to mean things" | | |
| ▲ | csallen 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | > There's no hint of laying off all the staff here though. Now it sounds like they "were" excited to lay off people to maximize profits. What? Just because a statement says "we're excited to do X" doesn't mean they're not also planning to do A, B, C, Y and Z. I'm not defending the layoff. It just seems weird to interpret the statement itself as somehow being misleading about a subject that it literally didn't mention. |
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| ▲ | hi_hi 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You want the truth? You can't handle the truth! :-) Those words weren't truth. Truth would have been to state the intent to fire employees in order to maximise profit. This was always going to be the outcome, and it was expected, why not just state it clearly? Again, when truth becomes a grey area that is to be manipulated for maximising profits that benefit a minority of privileged individuals, we should be concerned and at the least, not normalise it with "its just business". | |
| ▲ | ryandrake 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | A reasonable person, when told "Company A is buying and will operate Company B," would interpret that as "all of Company B" including its assets, liabilities, cash, property, patents, AND employees. They would not think "Well, ackshually, they're just buying the corporate entity itself, which doesn't technically involve keeping the employees..." | | |
| ▲ | csallen 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | If "reasonable person" means "someone with literally zero experience reading any business or acquisition news whatsoever" then I agree with you. Hell, the OP literally begins the announcement with, "As expected." | |
| ▲ | akavi 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Only if you believe the primary purpose of a corporation is to provide employment, as opposed to generating profit for its shareholders. (To be clear, I think the latter is both descriptively true and normatively good) | |
| ▲ | ForHackernews 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Any reasonable person who has paid attention to business news over their lifetime would not be surprised to see layoffs following a corporate acquisition. |
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| ▲ | perlgeek 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Try to be innovative without staff though... |
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| ▲ | gcr 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The Vimeo CEO is also right -- this action technically unlocks greater focus for their team! | |
| ▲ | hi_hi 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yes, this occurred to me also. If that is how he intended it, it is extremely disingenuous, at best, and another example of manipulation. |
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| ▲ | joe_the_user 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| As others mentioned, the statement seems true. But even more, it seems like the statement implies layoffs if they are acquiring a startup or growth-orient company. Bending Spoon is saying they intend to run the web site/web app as-is and make money. That means they will discard employees who have been employed with hope of growing/pivoting/etc the company. In start-ups, that can be a lot of the employees. |
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| ▲ | whalesalad 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Things happen. Times change. It's just as important to know when to throw in the towel as it is to know when to persevere. |
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| ▲ | killingtime74 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The acquisition concluded in November 2025, only 2 months ago. | |
| ▲ | johnnyanmac 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | That statement was from September. I can even dig up the discussion here on the annoucement: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45197302 Reading the comments there, I shouldn't be surprised at this maneuver. | |
| ▲ | taurath 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | These are the things that happen - taking a company and strangling it to make a 10% short term return. It’s like of funny, we give corporations personhood, but the type of person that can be owned by another person, or murdered for profit | | |
| ▲ | nasaeclipse 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Imagine what would happen if we tried these actions like we do for real murder trials. "CEO John Doe is found Guilty of maiming Company B to the point of bleeding it dry of its funds, resulting in bankruptsy. Due to person-hood laws, we sentence you to life in prison. Thank you for your attention on this matter." |
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| ▲ | wanderer2323 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | dangus 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | It sucks that people get laid off, but there are a whole lot of finished low growth products like this that have bloated teams. I don’t really see any lying going on. Which statement was a lie? |
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| ▲ | 999900000999 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Of course words don't actually mean anything. I've been through this myself once upon a time I was at a company and the way they described it is they just changed owners habitually. Within about 4 months of this ownership change they fired my entire office. Luckily I was already some place new. |
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| ▲ | jongjong 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yes. It's a zero trust society. Nobody can trust anybody else. The only thing that's trusted is money in a bank account... And we really shouldn't be trusting our eyes there because the money is backed by nothing and there is no reliable consensus between different banks (look at the details of correspondant banking and factor in things like the Eurodollar, stablecoins...). It's like; the thing we trust the most cannot be trusted but so long as we keep using money in its current form, this implicit form of trust is devaluing the trust of everything else that's not money. Our relationship with money sets the bar for all other relationships. If it's a deceptive relationship and we tolerate it, we will tolerate every other relationship which is equally deceptive. We become accustomed and tolerant to a certain level of deception. We are also emboldened to deceive others. Our relationship with money is highly deceptive and getting worse over time. We can expect to see the same trend in our relationships. I think money CAN buy trust; it works by devaluing the entire concept of trust to the level that it can afford to buy it outright. It maintains a monopoly on trust. |
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