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zahlman 19 hours ago

How about "Whoa!"? That seems to me like it preserves some of the ambiguous sense (calling for attention vs. remarking upon a discovery).

cvoss 18 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The issue is really focused on the grammatical function of the word. The researcher is arguing that it's not ever used as an interjection, which "whoa" always is.

zahlman 18 hours ago | parent [-]

I would say the presence of an exclamation mark, in a context where exclamation marks are rare, is strong evidence of use as an interjection. Unless we're arguing that some other mark was mistaken for an exclamation, generally I would say rare typography is "marked" (noteworthy) rather than being likely mistaken. I think the researcher's position is not likely to hold much sway going forward.

tsimionescu 17 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The exclamation mark is added in transliterations of the manuscript because it is believed to be an interjection. If you look at the manuscript, there is no such mark: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beowulf#/media/File:Beowulf_Co...

Sharlin 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why would you assume the original had an exclamation mark? Indeed the whole symbol was not invented until the 1300s.

LudwigNagasena 15 hours ago | parent [-]

The article puts punctuation into its rendering of the original text. That confused me too.

tsimionescu 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I'll note that it's not this decision is not coming from the newspaper article's writer, it's coming from any common transliteration of the manuscript that you'll find. But it's clearly a transliteration decision made because the people doing this assume it is an interjection, and they're using modern punctuation rules accordingly.

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badgersnake 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Bill and Ted kill a dragon.