> We don't want "at-will" employment like in the US.

Only lazy people want to be employed for life somewhere. All the benefits, no responsibility.

wolvoleo an hour ago | parent | next [-]

No, we still work. Just want some continuity. Not working for a company without direction chasing the latest fad and dumping everyone if it doesn't work out, but a good company with a decent business plan.

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ExoticPearTree an hour ago | parent [-]

Then go be an entrepreneur and create a company with no risk of failing. And let us know how that works out for you.

	▲	wolvoleo an hour ago \| parent [-]
		I don't want to be an entrepreneur. And it doesn't have to be riskless. Just to have a good business (plan). But this is the status quo in Europe. Companies are forced to take failure into account before they dive in deep, because it will cost them. Provide benefits for their employees, etc. This is good. Companies exist to provide jobs. Not only to make money for the owner and externalise all the negative effects on society. I just don't understand the desire to turn the EU into the US. If you like how business in the US works, just start your business there, not here. Meanwhile I as a worker would never consider moving there. This way we can both get what we want.

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socksy 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Good thing then that there's a range of options between being let go immediately for no reason and companies being forced to employ bad employees for life.

	▲	wolvoleo 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yes and that's basically what we have in most of Europe. Only France really has a bit of the latter. You can get rid of employees. You just have to show to the court that is necessary. Circumstances depend on whether it's individual performance or business need etc. But the at will is very harsh and we don't want this here.