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| ▲ | ExoticPearTree 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > majority of population of any given country doesn't emigrate ever, even inside EU where it would be extremely easy Because unlike the US, we don't speak the same language. If there would have been a real push to have a common EU language since its inception, we would have been more mobile and more US like. But no... | | |
| ▲ | traceroute66 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Because unlike the US, we don't speak the same language. The majority of Europeans, and especially those of recent generations speak incredibly good English. Most Europeans speak 2–3 languages anyway, so there is always a common language to be found. No need for one to be forced on you. | | |
| ▲ | ExoticPearTree 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Yes, they might, but in practice and with the exception of multinational corporations and some start-ups, everyone speaks their own language. And it's all fun and games that you can speak english in restaurants, cafes, train stations and the like, and then when you want to find a job in an EU country you get hit with "do you speak our language? no? ah, we're sorry then." There's a big difference between being a tourist in Europe and actually living here. | | |
| ▲ | traceroute66 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Well, if you insist on not learning a non-English European language, last time I checked Ireland was still in the EU and they speak English. But honestly, I'm not sure what the problem is. As previously mentioned by other people on this discussion, vast swathes of Eastern Europeans live and work in the West and have had no trouble whatsoever picking up the local language. As they say, the best way to learn a language is by immersion. Most Europeans will have gone to a school where they typically learnt a minimum of one extra language and often two extra languages. With the exception of Finnish, the majority of Western European languages are not that difficult. Its not like Chinese or Japanese which are simply impenetrable unless you went to school there or you are super-smart and managed to pick it up in later life through sheer brain power. |
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| ▲ | zajio1am 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Common language works for employment and business, but then you go to government bureau (or want to fill government form) and they will insist on official language. That is why english as secondary official language would be beneficial. |
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| ▲ | mrtksn 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | But evidence shows that they do emigrate in mass when there's a reason, it's one of the core issues of the last decade and the reason why fascists gained power all over the world. If fact its the reason why masked people in USA are hunting down immigrants. Its also factual that there's a large scale migration intra-EU, with people from poorer countries moving to rich ones to seek jobs. Bulgaria, Romania and Poland are prime examples for that. Its also well documented that those same people stop migrating and even coming back once their counties level up with the rest of the EU, again Poland and Bulgaria are good examples for this in the last years. EU is trying to make sure that the poorer countries receive the help they need to catch up and it looks like its working. | | |
| ▲ | traceroute66 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | > But evidence shows that they do emigrate in mass when there's a reason If you go to the CNN website there are lots of articles on there right now (e.g. https://edition.cnn.com/travel/us-woman-moved-to-germany) about US peeps who have emigrated to Europe recently and are thoroughly enjoying their new life with no plans to return to the motherland in the foreseeable future. I can't possibly think why. ;) |
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