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protocolture 2 hours ago

>Then I think you see an early indication not just of electric car dominance, but of the (very potential) rise of China as the premier automotive super power.

I thought we were there already tbh. Chinese cars have gone from laughably bad to quality parity in less than a decade. Like even 2 years ago, I was still hearing "the paint the paint" as the last remaining issue. But I dont hear that anymore.

maldev an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Have you ever ridden in a BYD? It's super loud, horrible suspension, seats are extremely uncomfy, everything is cheap with a fancy looking facade. If you need a car to go from point A - B and can't afford any luxury, it's fine. But it's a bare minimum vehicle with looks to appeal to status.

hliyan an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I have ridden in a BYD and it was the opposite experience: excellent suspension, unusually smooth ride, great seats. A few things on the dashboard did look a bit tacky. But overall, massive difference from where Chinese cars were even 5 years ago.

xenospn 28 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Most of what you’re describing applies to Teslas too, tho.

msy 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Parity? Their EVs are streets ahead, doubly so for the price.

IrishTechie 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Other than price, in what ways are they streets ahead? I’m a bit of an EV nerd and that would not be my assessment at all. Unfortunately for Western manufacturers price/volume is probably the most important thing right now, so they are still in serious trouble.

protocolture 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I dont drive one of their EV's, but the 20+ year veteran Diesel Engineer who took my DPF filter complaint escalation does and thats really all I need to know. After I run my current vehicle into the ground, that will probably be next.

fy20 an hour ago | parent [-]

Similar story here. I know a guy who does chip tuning as his career. He bought a Tesla last year, and he's more than happy with it.

petre an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Have you seen the paint schemes on new Chinese cars? Wow. Embedded glitter, chameleon colors, while the European car industry is doing boring primer like paint schemes. I always joke that they applied clear coat onto primer. And that's on >60k models.

irjustin 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In terms of quality they are there, now it's expansion. I, for one, am quite excited for all this competition. I don't care who makes my level 4/5 self driver, I just want it now.