On this note: It was recently reported that Electrified vehicles in general outsold conventional ICE powered vehicles in Australia, claiming it has reached a 'tipping point' with consumers:

https://www.drive.com.au/news/electrified-vehicles-have-offi...

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hnburnsy 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Consumers don't realize they are getting the worst of both worlds with added weight, complexity, repairs, inefficiency, and costs along with potential reliability (ex-Toyota) Not to mention studies that show PHEV owners frequently don't plug in.

	▲	olyjohn 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Well those owners are idiots. That says nothing about the car. You can't exclude Toyota when you make the claim that hybrids are unreliable and inefficient either. They have proven that they can be reliable and efficient. Hybrids aren't running around doing 30 miles a day with a 300 mile battery like most EVs. Talk about inefficient!
	▲	dietr1ch 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		My main goal with buying an EV is to give the middle finger to the oil industry as they have meddled with the world too much. They screwed public transit and entire nations just for profits. I love my Subbie and I'll keep that until it breaks apart and replace it with an EV. Maybe today there's many downsides to an EV, but I hope it evens up and maybe becomes even better to get one.
	▲	closewith 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Nah, PHEVs are the perfect compromise for lots of people who wouldn't otherwise be able to go all electric. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

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selcuka 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I wonder if fake hybrids [1] were counted as well.

[1] https://www.carscoops.com/2025/10/toyota-accuses-rivals-of-s...