> follow regulation

This one bit me recently when I bought a package of budget light fixtures (in Canada, from amazon.ca) and then my licensed electrician informed me that he wouldn't be able to install them as they didn't have a CSA or UL mark. (edit: originally I had mis-recalled and said CE here)

To their credit, Amazon did allow me to return them without penalty, and now my review there warns other consumers that those are only for DIY use and even then you are risking your home's insurance coverage.

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embedding-shape 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> and now my review there warns other consumers that those are only for DIY use

Actually make sure with a incognito window that this review is actually visible. I've noticed that some reviews of mine have been "shadow-banned" and while it looks like they're still there when I'm logged in, once I try in a incognito window the review doesn't show up publicly anymore. My reviews were just basically facts about the products themselves, and received no word from Amazon about breaking any rules.

	▲	kevin_thibedeau an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I posted a legitimate negative review once and it got immediately memory-holed. I laugh every time they send an email begging for reviews. I'm not wasting my time if you're going to hide the truth.
	▲	mikepurvis 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Huh, that's interesting; I can see one negative review on the logged-out page, but clicking "more" or any of the star ratings prompts me to log in. Once logged in, there are multiple 1-star reviews present, including some others referencing the missing certs. In any case, the listing is here for anyone else interested: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0CRGMS1Q5
	▲	AlexandrB 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		The few times I've tried leaving a negative review, Amazon has either taken it down or it has disappeared like this. The game is rigged.

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realityking 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> This one bit me recently when I bought a package of budget light fixtures (in Canada, from amazon.ca) and then my licensed electrician informed me that he wouldn't be able to install them as they didn't have a CE mark.

The CE mark signifies compliance with European Union standards and regulations. Why would you expect Amazon Canada to care about that?

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mikepurvis 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, sorry, I've updated my comment; the fixture actually does have CE, it's CSA/UL that were missing. My apologies.

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mindslight an hour ago | parent [-]

IIUC Chinese manufacturers often put the "CE" mark on things that haven't been certified, and rationalize it as the mark meaning "China Export"

I have never heard of a case of a homeowner's insurance claim being denied based on imrpoper DIY work. One of the main points of insurance is to protect you against your own negligence.

Still, I would make the same decision and steer clear of such lighting fixtures!

	▲	mikepurvis 9 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		The replacement ones that the electrician selected were only slightly more expensive and I was able to clean up the look of them with 3d printed shrouds: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7165347