Yes. Masks are off. And Musks.

Masks have been of for a while, but as long as the EU people can't vote the EU presidency out of office, it's to no avail.

It was a (steel and coal) corp affordances union to begin with, so it's no wonder it's pandering to business rather than civic interests after all.

Von der Leyen is corrupt yet shapes EU policy without backlash, and the citizenry is left to pay the price, precisely because the EU pretends to speak for the people.

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andsoitis an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> EU people can't vote the EU presidency out of office

Selection/rejection of the European Commission president (there is no such thing as the EU president) is indirect democracy, not popular vote. But it is still representative and democratic.

US contrast: in the US, citizens also don't vote for the President directly. Instead, we use a two-step system centered on the Electoral College.

Hypocrisy: if anyone (especially us American citizens) are going to argue that europeans should get to vote directly for the President of the EU commission, then they should also argue strongly to get rid of the Electoral System in the US and let the presidential popular vote be the decisive factor.

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MonkeyClub 25 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yep, EC rather than EU, my bad.

	▲	andsoitis 18 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> Yep, EC rather than EU, my bad. And the democracy part which you got wrong. That's the salient point.

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disgruntledphd2 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> Masks have been of for a while, but as long as the EU people can't vote the EU presidency out of office, it's to no avail.

The EU is basically run by the Council, who are the national governments, all of whom are elected.

It's incredibly depressing that this keeps needing to be repeated when its been this way since the inception of the EU (with a small hiatus where we were gonna get a constitution).

The Commission can propose laws, but unless the Council (mostly) and Parliament (theoretically) agree, they won't happen.

	▲	wolvoleo 9 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		True but they can keep pushing those laws over and over again like they're doing with chatcontrol.