Almost nobody in europe cares about these things. Nobody has gone out demonstrating for digital rights vs american companies. If we did we we would have already firewalled europe outside big tech.

Why are these articles finding their way here? In europe , this is not news, never.

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lucianbr 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Conveniently sidestepping the discussion of "should we care". I don't know how many people care or not, but I think more would care if the situation and implications were better known. It's good that this is brought to attention, and to say "people don't know so let's not talk about it" is absurd.

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pjc50 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

People have been caring about this for 20+ years. I'll admit that it's a minority position, but Germans in particular get very upset about mass surveillance.

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zecg 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> In europe , this is not news, never.

That's just false. Example, here's a shitty tabloid in Croatia:

https://www.24sata.hr/news/vrh-europske-komisije-mijenja-pra...

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NalNezumi 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>Why are these articles finding their way here? In europe , this is not news, never.

... Because this is hacker news and not euro news? This is pretty much on point both for tech topic and vague "hacker ethos" as a topic.

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pbhjpbhj 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've been actively moving away from USA originated products. I'm happy to see alternatives being discussed. I really don't think it's moral to fund fascist states in this way, sorry.

Yes, I'm still here, despite being told (paraphrasing) 'fuck off we don't want anyone from outside USA here'.

	▲	akramachamarei 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		What does fascism mean to you, exactly?
	▲	vixen99 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Fascism: 'A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.' Interesting because doesn't every sort of democratic state try to be 'a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls'? Depends how stringent and usually not stringent enough for many on the Left and on the Right. When tempted to use the word 'fascism', is it not better to describe the issue with which one's concerned (maybe deeply) rather than using a fit-all word and take care not to devalue the significance of the word as it was, for instance, applied in WW2 to some of the appalling atrocities that occurred in that period and those we've seen reports of recently?

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saubeidl 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Speak for yourself.

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brazzy 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Why are these articles finding their way here? In europe , this is not news, never.

A provably untrue statement. Examples:

https://www.politico.eu/article/big-tech-lobbying-brussels-d...

https://www.brusselstimes.com/1916422/us-tech-giants-allying...

https://taz.de/Digitale-Rechte-in-Europa/!6130097/

https://fr.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/04/18/champ-de-batail...

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NotGMan 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This. Outside of an extremely small minority no-one cares.