I think Yegge and Huntley are smart guys.

I don't think they're doing a good job incubating their ideas into being precise and clearly useful -- there is something to be said about being careful and methodical before showing your cards.

The message they are spreading feels inevitable, but the things they are showing now are ... for lack of better words, not clear or sharp. In a recent video at AI Engineer, Yegge comments on "the Luddites" - but even for advocates of the technology, it is nigh impossible to buy the story he's telling from his blog posts.

Show, don't tell -- my major complaint about this group is that they are proselytizing about vibe coding tools ... without serious software to show for it.

Let's see some serious fucking software. I'm looking for new compilers, browsers, OSes -- and they better work. Otherwise, what are we talking about? We're counting foxes before the hunt.

In any case, wouldn't trying to develop a serious piece of software like that _at the same time you're developing Gas Town or Loom_ make (what critics might call) the ~Emacs config tweaking for orchestration~ result driven?

Here's a separate, optimistic comment about Yegge and Huntley: they are obviously on the right track.

In a recent video about Loom (Huntley's orchestration tool), Huntley comments:

"I've got a single goal and that is autonomous evolutionary software and figuring out what's needed to be there."

which is extremely interesting and sounds like great fun.

When you take these ideas seriously, if the agents get better (by hook and crook or RLVR) -- you can see the implications: "grad student descent" on whatever piece of software you want. RAG over ideas, A/B testing of anything, endless looping, moving software.

It's a nightmare for the model of software development and human organization which is "productive" today, but an extremely compelling vision for those dabbling in the alternative.

It's a science project. I think the "I am so crazy" messaging is deliberate to scare most people away while attracting a few like-minded beta testers. He's telling you not to use it, which some people will take as a dare...