| ▲ | keiferski 7 hours ago |
| Eh, I don’t think not wanting gambling and amoral behavior to consume society makes me a conservative in any real sense of the word. More just common sense pragmatism, is how I’d put it. |
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| ▲ | mattgreenrocks 23 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| IMO, the world simply functions better when we strive for virtue. |
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| ▲ | ifyoubuildit 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Maybe you mean in any modern sense of the word, but I'm pretty sure that is indeed a large part of what it used to mean. |
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| ▲ | kelipso 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The Chesterton’s Fence argument is an argument against progressive social changes, no? |
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| ▲ | keiferski 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | No, it’s an argument against removing rules / making changes without deeply understanding why those rules exist in the first place, and what might happen when they are removed. It’s perfectly fine to be for progressive social changes, as long as those criteria are met. I’d call that a pragmatic approach, not a conservative one. | | |
| ▲ | tbrownaw 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | > I’d call that a pragmatic approach, not a conservative one. The other meaning of "conservative", the one that's opposite "reckless". It should in theory be possible to take a conservative approach to being progressive. | | |
| ▲ | giantg2 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | "It should in theory be possible to take a conservative approach to being progressive" That's likely how most of the middle see themselves (if not in those words) - open to new changes but only if they're fully understood and not drastic. |
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| ▲ | xboxnolifes 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | No, sometimes social change is putting up a fence. And if social change is sometimes putting up fences, that would mean that not all fences are supposed to be torn down. | | |
| ▲ | kelipso 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Chesterton’s fence has a specific definition. It’s not supposed to mean restrictions on social conduct or mores like you seem to be implying. |
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| ▲ | BurningFrog 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Sure, but Chesterton's Fence is a pretty foundational argument among many conservatives. Conservatives think societies are hard to understand, which makes them hard to engineer, and replacing institutions that work with new inventions needs to be done carefully and slowly. |
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| ▲ | protonbob 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Amoral by what standard? That’s where the conservatism comes in. |
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| ▲ | cyanydeez 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Think of it as grift and not gambling. |
