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EGreg 12 hours ago

As usual - the advice is essenially rats from a sinking ship all the way. “You all need to do this narrow thing to survive now”.

2016 to truckers: “Learn to code LOL”

2026 to coders: “Learn soft skills”

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46436872

Look, I personally am taking full advantage of exactly the skills described. I was the one who posted the above thing on HN showing how I am 20-50x more productive now, complete with a 4 hour speedrun video. I usually try not to just talk and point out current problems, but build solutions AND show (github, youtube) with specific details so you can watch it and apply it for yourself. But I am telling you:

1) most people will not adapt, so we will need UBI for those who don’t

2) eventually even those who adapt will be replaced too, so we will need UBI for everybody

It is after all a thin layer that remains. I remember Kasparov proudly talked about how “centaurs” (human + machine working together) in chess were better than machines alone… until they weren’t, and human in the loop became a liability.

But the problem is more widespread in the last 70 years. Just look around. Industry always tells the individual they can do some individual action downstream to clean up the mess they create upstream, and it is leading the entire planet into ruin:

https://magarshak.com/blog/government-and-industry-distract-...

In fact, the human population in modern environments has been living large on an ecological credit card and the bill is coming due for our children, because all the “individual responsibility” stuff — where you can somehow diet, exercise and recycle your way out of things corporations do upstream — is all a gient lie and always has been. So the negative externalities just build up until the next generation won’t be able to ignore them anymore, but it could be too late. Whether that’als day zero for water in cities, or factory farms for meat with antiobiotic resistance, or fossil fuels and greenhouse gases to subsidize the car industry, or ubiqitous microplastic plastic pollution around thr world (yes, personal plastic recycling was just another such scam designed to keep you docile and not organize to force corporations to switch to biodegradeable materials.) The “anthoposcene” is seeing a decline in insects and all species of animal except humans and farm animals. Coral reefs are bleached, kelp forests and rainforests are decimated, and governments work with industry to eg allow Patagonian forests to be burned for new developments and then smokey the bear says “only YOU can prevent forest fires”. Think about it.

joshuaisaact 12 hours ago | parent [-]

I may have misread your comment, but I don't think soft skills are a 'narrow thing' at all. Effective communication, building trust, bringing people along with you - these are fundamental to being an effective human, not some niche pivot.

CrulesAll 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"Effective communication, building trust, bringing people along with you" That's a David Brent powerpoint presentation.

joshuaisaact 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Fair. I'll retire 'bringing people along with you' before it ends up on a motivational poster with a stock photo of a rowing team.

Though you're right that there's no I in team. There is one in AI though, which probably tells us something.

CrulesAll 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Not fair on you. I did not mean to have a dig. I get where you are coming from, and should have elaborated. I've worked with those one or two engineers who were rude by default. Who had an extraordinary knack of vaguely describing the problem set, and then having a full on meltdown, always in front of other people, when the solutions did not match the problem in their head.*

*Goldman Sachs(sorry for invoking that name here) did a report on their high turnover, and the above framing was why many quit.

EGreg 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Look, if we zoom in, then "learning to code" is also quite a broad range of skills that someone needs to master before they can meaningfully carve out a career in a competitive marketplace.

The point is that if you zoom out, it's just a thin slice that can be automated by machines. People keep saying "I'll tell you in my experience, no UAV will ever trump a pilot's instinct, his insight, the ability to look into a situation beyond the obvious and discern the outcome, or a pilot's judgment"... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZygApeuBZdk

But as you can see, they're all wrong. By narrow here I meant a thin layer that thinks it's indispensable as they remove all the other layers. Until the system comes for this layer too.