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| ▲ | b-kuiper 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | i also find, with the arrival of catawiki (more a european market?), nice products for regular/normal prices seems hard to come by nowadays. Our "local" online market (marktplaats.nl) is therefore losing its value, local (town/neighborhood) (whats)app groups seem to somewhat take over this roll within the digital space. | | |
| ▲ | jorvi an hour ago | parent [-] | | This is a general trend worldwide. OP's writing is nice, but he is de facto a scalper looking for the maximum amount of arbitrage. There's enough of them, like mentioned in the article, that they'll pick any flea market or secondhand store clean off diamonds in the rough before you as a regular guy really get a chance to find any. What they're doing isn't illegal or forbidden, but it has completely destroyed the spirit of flea markets and secondhand stores as quaint places. And in response to becoming as hypercapitalist as the rest of society, a large contingent of people on flea markets has started to offer whole tables stuffed with cheap AliExpress / Temu crap. Or AI art being sold as "handmade". The enthusiast offering artisanal coffee or lemonade or cinnamon rolls from his stall or food truck has quadrupled his prices, because if everyone else is gouging the visitor, why shouldn't he? The same goes for secondhand clothing stores. They're wise to the scalpers looking to flip stuff on Vinted or whatever, so they have also doubled or even tripled their prices. It's an open secret that a lot of stores let the girls working there have a first lookover of whatever comes in. | | |
| ▲ | 0ckpuppet 3 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Is it really scalping? I have more interest than knowledge of what makes a good cookung knife. I could pay him for his knowledge and get a good and useful knife, or I could guess my way through half a dozen trips to the flea market with weeks of trial and error usage. Yes, one is a solution and the other is a journey, but if I'm committed to this particular journey, surf's up at 5:30 a.m. | |
| ▲ | allreduce 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | In general, if you want to do something you more often than not have to compete nation or even worldwide. It makes markets more efficient in the minds of some economists, but makes creating or finding valuable things fucking exhausting. | |
| ▲ | KolmogorovComp an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > There's enough of them, like mentioned in the article, that they'll pick any flea market or secondhand store clean off diamonds in the rough before you as a regular guy Usually the flea markets is open to everyone, it’s just that the ‘regular guy’ is not motivated enough to come early. There is nothing you find you cannot if you show up at the same time. | | |
| ▲ | jorvi an hour ago | parent [-] | | No normal person is getting up at 05:30 to go to a flea market. Like I said, they're not doing anything forbidden, but they've completely demolished the vibe of something formerly quaint. Imagine if I went to a hippie festival, bought trays and trays of cake from the food truck, then walked them two blocks over to the fancy neighborhood and started flipping them for triple the price. Word gets out, and a few years later the food truck has raised its prices significantly and then the rest of the festival follows. | | |
| ▲ | KolmogorovComp an hour ago | parent [-] | | > No normal person is getting up at 05:30 to go to a flea market. Of course there are, just go at that time and check. I know because I am one of them. 05:30 is not particularly early, and if you have a specific niche or quality standard and not just only a bystander, you know that is the only way. I am also not sure why you believe this trend is new. The diamonds as far as I know have always been found very early. | | |
| ▲ | jorvi an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | You're either delusional or just being a contrarian if you think being out the door at 05:30 is "not particularly early". McDonalds is still serving the dinner menu at that point. And you used to be able to find diamonds in the rough on flea markets, secondhand stores and even on online places like eBay, until 2013ish. That's when the professional reseller became more and more pervasive. Since you seem to think that flipping and scalping is a valuable addition to society, we have nothing to discuss. | | |
| ▲ | KolmogorovComp 9 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > You're either delusional or just being a contrarian if you think being out the door at 05:30 is "not particularly early" Have you never fished at the dawn, hiked for a sunrise, spent the night watching the stars? I think you may try to expand your horizon about other people hobbies. |
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| ▲ | paganel 34 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | > 05:30 is not particularly early, 5:30 is particularly early, especially when it involves normal people's hobbies. > and if you have a specific niche or quality standard and not just only a bystander, This is what the OP was saying, that this space has been been invaded by scalpers, people who do tend to have higher "quality standards" because it's in the nature of their "job", they've become aware that the higher quality stuff sells for more so that they're actively chasing it. |
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