With 2024 and 2023 being 2nd and 1st resp. The last 11 years were the hottest 11 in recorded history. I don't know how more evidence we need. We are standing on the train tracks, the train is coming, and many of us say "Oh just look over there instead, we'll be fine."

Meanwhile - even if you do not care about climate - there is so much money to make with renewables (production, storage, mobility, etc). China and much of the rest of the world are charging ahead, while the US wants to be a petrol state.

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rmitsch 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There's no amount of evidence that'll help. We have had a sufficient amount of that for a long while. It's entrenched economic interests fostering a lack of political will that's keeping us from taking this seriously.

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networkadmin 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Actually the whole thing is a fraud.

	▲	scotty79 42 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Well, obviously climate change denialism is the fraud. There's billions to be made for every year of delaying action. By some people of course. The rest of us will lose trillions in the long run.
	▲	card_zero an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Meh. I used to think that in about 1996. Sea levels weren't rising, environmentalists were (and some continue to be) alarmist media-whoring ideologues whose ideal solution is for us all to make ourselves very small and just live less. But these days I'm persuaded global warming is happening. I'm not sure why I was persuaded but I guess mainly because it got hotter.

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RickJWagner 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

China emits 34% of the world’s total carbon emissions, the USA produces 12%.

Since 2000, China has increased emissions by 262%. The USA has decreased emissions by 21%.

If that’s how China is charging ahead, we don’t need it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_di...

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ainiriand 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I am still confused why this argument is still valid to anyone... Not only China has 4 times more population than the US, but they produce all the stuff that the US buys, so if the US had to produce all that stuff on their own they would emit so much more carbon.

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RickJWagner 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The US has no new coal plants under construction.

2024 had the highest number of Chinese plants in a decade.

	▲	WaxProlix 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		They're adding capacity, not increasing utilization. Many new plants are smaller, more grid-friendly, more-efficient replacements for aging plants. Coal Utilization growth in China is negative and has been for years.
	▲	scotty79 40 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		US has barely any new renewables (both manufacturing and installation) when compared to China. One virtue doesn't wipe thousand sins.

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cabirum 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Who are "we"? China population is 4 times the US, with carbon emissions just 3 times greater, making them produce less carbon per capita.