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themafia 5 hours ago

> We need to avoid reaching tipping points that will cause non-recoverable damage to the earth system.

Then I'd be far more worried about nuclear war than minor temperature excursions. Aside from that "non recoverable" damage happens every day. What do you think mining is?

> Actual global average temperatures is what should be measured.

On average it was 10 degrees Fahrenheit cooler last year than it was the previous where I live in northern CA.

misnome 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Congratulations, you know the local weather

simianparrot 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Local weather is what matters to individuals. So is access to affordable energy.

You cannot coerce someone to ignore their local weather and sabotage access to affordable energy because of some global average. It’s a losing battle that’s fundamentally misled.

oezi 3 hours ago | parent [-]

You have to coerce the individual to follow the strategic direction despite tactical disadvantages. This is what leadership means.

If we all individually spend more money to accommodate the effects of climate change than their causes, then we are wasting enormous economic resources.

simianparrot 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Sure, but local is a radius. There's my local, then there's my region's local, then there's my country's local. As wonderful as globalism sounds on paper, if saving the global average leads to a drought or a flood for another country, or another region, then you are trying to convince others of giving up a lot for no tangible relevant gain.