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genewitch 6 hours ago

nevermind satellites, just diff the temp records from say, 1950-2000 and the ones reporting that data today and there's a lot of jank. urbanization around the thermometers also makes it appear as though global temperatures are rising, but all the data really says is that cities are heat islands.

first order: verify satellite data. Secondly, move all sensors to locations where they are unaffected by heat islanding and other man-made influences.

yes, if a city gets hotter in temperature because it grows, that obviously is a concern, but it doesn't affect people in the countryside, or on the other side of the planet, etc. (1/1000th as much if anything, i'll hedge).

the second thing will never happen. I am sure someone will reply why it's literally impossible and stupid to put thermometers someplace where the weather is natural. Because if we did move all of the sensors, suddenly there wouldn't appear to be any 1.5C change or anything, and there's thousands of egos at stake, here.

yongjik 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I know I sound like a broken radio, but:

Google "urban heat island effect site:realclimate.org"

Scientists have been aware of the effect and correcting for it since before you heard about it. In general, if you can think of something in five minutes, scientists (whose lifetime job is to consider these problems) have considered that.

carlgreene 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Where are you finding where all the sensors locations are?