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tonymet 6 hours ago

the article is particularly dodgy. “On record” is a crime. They hint at it being satellite recordings since the 1970s.

The Economist used to be a good publication until McElthwaite left for Bloomberg about 10-12 years ago.

foltik 5 hours ago | parent [-]

This isn't some big conspiracy. "On record" is since recordkeeping began in 1880.

https://science.nasa.gov/earth/explore/earth-indicators/glob...

tonymet 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Ok, so why not just be specific? “On record” usually means since we started recording history , at least 5k years ago.

And have you looked into the records? satellite surface temps and high resolution recording have not been around for very long. 1880 methods were very crude and narrowly scoped.

NicuCalcea 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> “On record” usually means since we started recording history , at least 5k years ago.

I'm a journalist who has published "highest/lowest on record" statistics tens, if not hundreds of times, and I've never heard of anyone thinking it means "since Herodotus" or anything like that.

tonymet 37 minutes ago | parent [-]

How would readers know the reference point unless you inform them. Of course they will defer to colloquialisms . In some cases 5000 years , some 1000 years . With something as broad and impactful as this, they certainly assume more than 150 years .

genewitch 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

and scientists edit the historical temperatures because of, and i hope you can see my eyeroll here "anomalous readings" - but they're overwhelmingly erroneous in only one direction. that's strange.

tonymet 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

Given the amount of noise and normalization , I would like to see that claim better qualified.

That’s what I’m calling attention to. Being more formal with the claims , and transparent about the records origins