| ▲ | taminka 6 hours ago |
| i wonder if ppl's electricity consumption habits will change in response to this, idk like turning the heat way up during the day or using high power appliances more during the day |
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| ▲ | fgkramer 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| This is already a reality with smart chargers in the UK. Your electric car can be charged when the electricity rates are lower (night usually) |
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| ▲ | kalleboo 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| We have a solar electric plan - the price per kWh is much higher during the duck curve in return for cheap rates during sunshine hours. The rates are something like 1x during night, 0.5x during sunshine, 4x during the morning and afternoon peaks. We have our heat pump water heater running during the cheap hours, and also change our use of air conditioning/heating to accommodate. It would probably not work in our favor if we didn't work from home and were out of the home all day. |
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| ▲ | mschuster91 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > idk like turning the heat way up during the day That is something you can reasonably do, but it's only useful in winter. > or using high power appliances more during the day Well, given that people have to work during the day, I doubt that that will work out on a large enough scale. And even if you'd pre-program a laundry machine to run at noon, the laundry would sit and get smelly during summer until you'd get home. The only change in patterns we will see is more base load during the night from EVs trickle-charging as more and more enter the market. |
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| ▲ | bruce511 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I've got solar. We switched things like pool pump, hot water and so on (things already on timers) from night to day. Dishwasher can also gave a programmed start, so that can also shift from after-dinner to after-breakfast. I also work some days from home, so other activities can be moved from night to day. We use a bore-hole for irrigation, laundry in the morning etc. Even cooking can often be done earlier in the day. Aircon is the least problematic- when we need it, the sun is shining. So yes, habits can shift. Obviously though each situation is different. | |
| ▲ | infecto 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | At least in the US there is a push to make electric appliances smarter already. So for example, the electric hot water heater responding to the strain on the grid. The same could happen for AC, heat, EVs and other higher load appliances. At scale that can help out the grid immensely either in times of peak load or dip in demand. | | |
| ▲ | fpoling 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I do not see a point of smart appliances besides electrical car. 10 KWt-hour battery will cover all the needs to smooth the demand from all home appliances and costs below 1K usd. It will allow also to significantly reduce maximum power that has to be supplied to a house while allow to increase peak consumption while heavy cooking/AC/heating. | | |
| ▲ | infecto an hour ago | parent [-] | | At least in the US most of this is still on the research phase but if you can get a standard adopted for all new equipment you can easily adjust these high draw appliances to act as a virtual power plant. It would be a trivial implementation compared to getting batteries in homes. |
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| ▲ | elzbardico 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This is good for water heaters for example. I wonder if storing chilled water for air conditioning would be a feasible strategy to do the same. |
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