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nrjames 8 hours ago

Disney made a movie about this called Night Crossing in the early 1980s. More recently, there's a 2018 German movie about it called Balloon.

[0] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082810/

[1] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7125774

lukeweston1234 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The 2018 film is a really good movie, I would highly recommend checking it out!

tgsovlerkhgsel 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

+1 to this! I wonder if some of the horror in it (the constant threat of the Stasi and its implications) translates well to non-German audiences. In case you're wondering about Germany's strict privacy laws - this is part of why they exist.

elzbardico 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Probably this is an also big component in the notorious German preference for cash over cards.

immibis 5 hours ago | parent [-]

That was caused by interchange fees, and it has disappeared now.

ekianjo 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Germany's strict privacy laws

Not anymore.

wolvoleo an hour ago | parent [-]

No, on the contrary. Germany is a big proponent of chatcontrol.

assaddayinh 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The havoc that finding out your family and friends spied on you for benefits, can not be overstated. How deeply anti social and lonely such a divided and conquered socialist utopian society is can not be expressed in words, and yet it can.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesbeauftragter_f%C3%BCr_di...

0928374082 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Nowadays we don't even need family and friends to spy on you for benefits; websites and apps do it for advertising revenue.

mitthrowaway2 an hour ago | parent [-]

I wonder if future generations will wonder why being spied on and monitored was even noteworthy, let alone a cause for concern.

dkga 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

+1, really well-done movie!

wolvoleo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Great movie yes! The 1980s one, I have not seen the new one.

foota 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I watched Night Crossing in my german class in high school. I remember it being intense.

wolvoleo an hour ago | parent [-]

For the 80s it was intense yes. Watching it now that same tension feels milder but I guess that's because every single TV show now has to have constant explosions, car crashes etc in it.

There is actually gunfire in it and a teenager dies in the beginning but it still feels less intense due to the 80s pace IMO.

hungryhobbit 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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dang 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I appreciate your concern for comment quality! but this is the kind of point that depends on how someone is using HN overall.

If an account were doing this repetitively in a way that didn't feel like genuine conversation, that would be quite different than a case like this, where there's no sign of such a pattern and the account is using HN quite as intended - randomly walking through topics of curiosity. It seems more likely that nrjames just happened to remember those movies* and wanted to make sure they got a mention in the thread. That's fine!

I'd say this guideline is relevant here: "Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

(* as have others, e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46652703)

NedF 3 hours ago | parent [-]

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