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ImPostingOnHN 12 hours ago

And once the distinction is made?

dec0dedab0de 11 hours ago | parent [-]

pay people who are victims of excessive damage, and punish the people responsible.

ImPostingOnHN 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Ah, that leaves us where we are now: able to recognize excessive force and excessive damage, but lacking the ability to punish the people responsible, who also decide not to pay victims anything.