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SoulMan 6 hours ago

What about Jack Dorsey's Bitchat . Could be useful in india (especially Kashmir) where govt shut down internet during protest

aaravchen an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Check the news from the past year. If you care about security or privacy, Bitchat doesn't actually have either according to !any independent security audits), so I'd stay away.

If you dont care about those things, I'd look at Scuttlebutt (SSB) protocol apps instead.

stanislavb 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Bitchat seems like a good solution. It will be even more effective once Bluetooth 6 becomes more widespread in a year or two.

anukin 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Could be useful in Bangladesh and Baluchistan too.

2Gkashmiri 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Dude.

Back in 2014 when briar or something similar came up, we found the app.needed to signed in "online" first then it could be used offline.

There were apps used in 2019 but it wasnt enough.

The government "banned" 14 appps including element "because use by terrorists" meant anyone using element after the ban got a loud knock on the door by the stazi with 100-300 personnel, fully ready to engage in battle.

Have seen horror stories.

They used isp data to locate homes where element was used and then staked them out and made a big show of attacking at night.

Then the usual. Phones are confiscated and literal spyware installed.

aaravchen 42 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

That was Bridgefy that required initial online access to setup. Briar doesn't and never has.

Traceability of Briar users, if not the actual content, is certainly potentially worse than something like what Bitchat claims (don't use Bitchat it's provably not secure or private at all) with it's traffic obfuscation and multihop. However, the lack of multihop also makes it less promiscuous, so someone would have to be monitoring when you came in contact with the transfer source or destination, unlike multihop that just broadcasts to anyone so they can hopefully relay it.

alephnerd 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why are people downvoting him? He's right (even though if his dream for "Azad" Kashmir came true, it would mean my family is Kishtwar would probably have to leave for Punjab or Himachal with only the clothes on their backs, but the current status quo means he might be detained indefinetly as well) - the DoT, Home Ministry, and State STFs have been rolling out fusions centers since the mid-2010s [0].

The rules are much more strict/draconian in JK [1]

[0] - https://www.mha.gov.in/sites/default/files/AdvNATGRIDCOT_151...

[1] - https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/centre-blocks-14-mobi...

2Gkashmiri 29 minutes ago | parent [-]

https://the420.in/delhi-police-upgrades-drdo-netra-surveilla...

https://www.crazyengineers.com/threads/netra-is-indian-gover...

dasyud 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Wait really? Was this only in Kashmir? I've had Element on my laptop for years.

alephnerd 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yes - https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/centre-blocks-14-mobi...

2Gkashmiri 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

yep. only restricted in kashmir

cboyardee 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm not sure so many Iranians have $1000 iphones to use hipster bitchat; cheaper android clients are more the norm.

syntaxing 4 hours ago | parent [-]

While bitchat was originally iOS only during release, they released the Android version shortly after https://bitchat.free/ (scroll down)

cboyardee 3 hours ago | parent [-]

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throwaway758439 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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throw5756733565 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"Raliv, Tsaliv ya Galiv" didn't need the internet or fancy mesh networking - rabble-rousing Friday mosque-sessions were sufficient for ethnociding the native population over the course of many centuries.