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observationist 8 hours ago

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gjm11 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What does "challenged Wikipedia so thoroughly" mean?

(My impression is that Grokipedia was announced, everyone looked it and laughed because it was so obviously basically taking content from Wikipedia and making it worse, and since then it's largely been forgotten. But I haven't followed it closely and maybe that's all wrong.)

thiht 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> It's remarkable that Grokipedia has challenged Wikipedia so thoroughly, at only 80 days old with 25 years of Wikipedia.

No?? In what world do you live?

Using Grokipedia would literally be asking for partisan propaganda, Musk doesn't even hide it

1121redblackgo 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This whole thread reeks of Grok astro and challenging Wikipedia. There are fair criticisms of Wikipedia, but I am smelling something fishy.

steve1977 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This comment is the first time that I have heard about Grokipedia.

tgv 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Sumary: it's a copy of Wikipedia, but without the bits Musk disagrees with. Perhaps it also has some other sources, but the articles I looked up when it was announced, were verbatim copies from Wikipedia, with some bits missing. My suspicion was that they instructed their LLM ("Grok". I wonder why it wasn't called X or Grox. Anyway...) to synthesize the article from the edits, leaving out those that were rated "liberal", with the error margin on the conservative side (pun intended).

root_axis 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> the persistent editorial and corporate bias and intellectual dishonesty

Musk is explicitly partisan and has repeatedly manipulated Grok's output to suit his agenda. How could you possibly consider Grok a worthwhile alternative if you take issue with intellectual dishonesty and corporate bias?

padjo 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Apparently some people on this site think there’s such a thing as unbiased information.

dgrin91 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Has it? I think to challenge you have to show some comparable usage numbers. Its certainly an impressive technical feat to have this AI-based wiki project, but does anyone actually use it?

I mean that genuinely. I don't know any usage numbers for Grok. Is it even 1% of Wiki? Is it 50%? Is it more?

observationist 6 hours ago | parent [-]

It's consistently better in content quality, for everything that I've used it for. I've seen conversations complaining about it that effectively reek of either anti-Musk or anti-AI bias, and when I dig in, I haven't found any legitimate bad information or arbitrary bias in the articles themselves.

It's not yet as comprehensive, with ~6 million articles compared to Wikipedia's ~7 million, and the UI isn't as good, with a lot of polish and convenience and fun features in Wikipedia that are noticeably absent.

It's qualitatively better in significant ways, and when you compare and contrast articles for which there's a difference, you start to get a feel for the ways in which Wikipedia has failed.

Being anti-Musk is a shibboleth and article of faith for a lot of people, so they can't engage with anything he's involved in on an objective level. Grokipedia isn't used by as many people for that and other reasons. From the last couple months of using it, I've found it to be an objectively better tool.

I've gone in and made corrections in places I have knowledge of, and the process and transparency of those types of edits are awesome. It just works, no drama, no dealing with digital tinpot tyrants, and if there's evidence you're wrong about a thing, the bot will actually counter your suggestion and stick to its parameters and standards.

It's not perfect by any means, but it's a damn sight better than Wikipedia.

thunderfork 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Got any examples of articles to demonstrate that difference?

streaming 4 hours ago | parent [-]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden vs. https://grokipedia.com/page/Hunter_Biden

LightBug1 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

AI-slop tainted by a billionaire wanker.

Translation: I'll never use grokipedia while I have access to better alternatives.

streaming 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Grokipedia is impressive. All edits to the original Wikipedia article are shown, along with source links for the edit. All anyone has to do is to look at a wikipedia article and the Grokipedia article side by side to see that Grok is usually able to make significant improvements to articles, adding important context, improving explanations and removing bias. Don't knock it 'til you've tried it. If you haven't tried it because of a hatred of Elon Musk... well... who's the biased one?

vovavili 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There is nothing impressive about an AI slop Wikipedia rewrite by a radicalized eccentric billionaire.