This is going to sound sarcastic, but I mean this fully: why haven't they merged that PR.

The implied future here is _unreal cool_. Swarms of coding agents that can build anything, with little oversight. Long-running projects that converge on high-quality, complex projects.

But the examples feel thin. Web browsers, Excel, and Windows 7 exist, and they specifically exist in the LLM's training sets. The closest to real code is what they've done with Cursor's codebase .... but it's not merged yet.

I don't want to say, call me when it's merged. But I'm not worried about agents ability to produce millions of lines of code. I'm worried about their ability to intersect with the humans in the real world, both as users of that code and developers who want to build on top of it.

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risyachka 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>> why haven't they merged that PR.

because it is absolutely impossible to review that code and there is gazillion issues there.

The only way it can get merged is YOLO and then fix issues for months in prod which kinda defeats the purpose and brings gains close to zero.

	▲	mkoubaa 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		On the other hand, finding fixing issues for months is still training data

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dist-epoch 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Pretty much everything exists in the training sets. All non-research software is just a mishmash of various standard modules and algorithms.

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galaxyLogic 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Not everything, only code-bases of existing (open-source?) applications.

But what would be the point of re-creating existing applications? It would be useful if you can produce a better version of those applications. But the point in this experiment was to produce something "from scratch" I think. Impressive yes, but is it useful?

A more practically useful task would be for Mozilla Foundation and others to ask AI to fix all bugs in their application(s). And perhaps they are trying to do that, let's wait and see.

	▲	mkoubaa 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		You have to be careful which codebase to try this on. I have a feeling if someone unleashed agents on the Linux kernel to fix bugs it'd lead to a ban on agents there