How would you suggest they verify age? I am not aware of a good way to do it from a privacy and security perspective.

phatfish 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

A digital ID, like someone said below. But people (in the UK at least) go mental about that, despite the government already having all the information anyway. Creating a easy way to securely share that information with a 3rd party for online verification is apparently the work of the devil.

In the real world you turn up in person with a passport, or maybe use snail mail as a way to verify an address which is hard to fake.

Online we have to pretend it is still the internet of the 90s where it's all just chill people having a fun time using their handle...

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kreco 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You can take a look at what Switzerland is about to do:

https://www.homburger.ch/de/insights/swiss-voters-approve-ne...!

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SoftTalker 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Would be very tough to implement in the US, as proposing any sort of "national ID" is pretty much a nonstarter, at least up to this point.

States could do it, and maybe agree on some protocols so that things like privacy-preserving "age verification" could be done.

Maybe the feds could push it like they did with speed limits: make federal funding contingent upon adopting e-ID. Would still get a lot of pushback.

	▲	thewebguyd 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		The problem with e-ID is its focused on identity verification, not just age verification and that's where the problem lies. We still need the ability to be psuedoanonymous online. We should be able to verify age without divulging any identifying information to the service requesting age verification. An e-ID registry could work on a sort of public/private key system so long as the services requesting informatino from the registry only receives a yes or no of "is this person old enough" and no further information.

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petre 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm obviously not going to show my id to Zuckerberg's website or any porn sites, casinos because I don't trust those bastards. They're also not the police, so they lack the proper autoritah to request my an id.

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thewebguyd 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It doesn't have to be exclusively digital. You can be psuedoanonymous using some form of key as verification. To get a key, you have to present your ID in person at, for example, the social security office or local DOL.

All the key does is attest that "this person is over X years old" with no other identifying information associated with it.

I think blending in person & digital together is going to be the best way forward. Like going to the store and buying alcohol. I have little privacy risk from the cashier glancing at my ID for a second to check my birth date.

	▲	idopmstuff 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		But that would require the government to set up the system that lets you present your ID and get a key. They haven't done that, so it's not valid to blame businesses for not using it.