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ceejayoz 4 hours ago

Thanks for illustrating the point.

loeg 4 hours ago | parent [-]

They have worse prices (higher) and worse range (lower, particularly for towing). These aren't misconceptions. (My only car is an EV that I'm happy with. But lying about EVs doesn't benefit advocates.)

fullstop 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Obviously this is slanted by tax credits, but the EV that I have shares a name with the existing gas model and was less expensive.

EVs aren't for everything, but mine fits my use case perfectly.

ceejayoz 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> They have worse prices (higher)

Does this factor in cost of ownership? Gas, oil changes, less complexity?

> worse range (lower, particularly for towing)

Towing reduces a gas powered car’s range, too.

mdavid626 3 hours ago | parent [-]

(Towing) You can fill it up in 5 min.

Not true for EV.

ceejayoz an hour ago | parent [-]

Pop in for a pee and a snack. In the 15-20 mins that takes, you'll have a good amount of charge.

Towing is also a bit of an edge case.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/26907/you-dont-need-a-full-siz...

> According to Edwards’ data, 75 percent of truck owners use their truck for towing one time a year or less (meaning, never). Nearly 70 percent of truck owners go off-road one time a year or less. And a full 35 percent of truck owners use their truck for hauling—putting something in the bed, its ostensible raison d’être—once a year or less.

WorldMaker 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They have artificially worse prices in the US where EVs are mostly only getting sold as "luxury" vehicles and competition is hobbled by dealer networks and dealer laws and import tariffs.

Most other parts of the world EVs are starting to be cheaper than the equivalent ICE in the same category.

Range often doesn't need to get better, the impression of range needs to change. That's where a lot of misconceptions play into effect, over-focusing on things like gas-station-like charging stations over at-home charging. Over-focusing on "zero to full tank/battery statistics" when no one keeps a gas vehicle with a full tank overnight every night. Over-focusing on high speed charging and ignoring boring but useful "Level 1" charging, which is "just about everywhere" because our society has been building electrical outlets for a long time. Sure, the experience changes in things like long distance trips, but experience changes aren't "worse" by default of being a change.

phainopepla2 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I still have to pay the price whether it's artificial or not