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Someone1234 5 hours ago

I'm actually a huge fan of "unlimited slow speeds" as a falloff, instead of a cliff.

Aside from the fact it allows you to work with Starlink to buy more fast speed, it also allows core stuff to continue to function (e.g. basic notifications, non-streaming web traffic, etc).

consumer451 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> I'm actually a huge fan of "unlimited slow speeds" as a falloff, instead of a cliff.

When on cellular, I like to call that "HN-only mode." It is one of the few web properties that is entirely usable at 2G speeds.

Salgat 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I would kill for a web renaissance to return to this format of webpages, as least as an option. Not only loading improves, but also navigation and accessibility.

Someone1234 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Indeed. That's why, when they finally kill old.reddit, I may legitimately stop using it entirely. They've already banned most of the good apps, forcing the pretty terrible official one.

bcraven an hour ago | parent | next [-]

RedReader is a lovely, lightweight Android app for Reddit.

Development is slow, but I've been happily using it since RiF was killed.

MaxikCZ 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Recently the old reddit szopped working for me even after going to account settings and opting out of new design again (it was already marked as being opt out) across all my devices. Even after manually navigating to old.reddit.com, clicking any link would take me to new again. I had to install special extensions to reroute to old reddit everywhere.

Centigonal 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Same thing happened to me, this fixed it: https://www.reddit.com/r/help/comments/1odehgj/is_old_reddit...

xattt 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

CBC News has a lite version of their news site that they tend to promote around times of natural disaster.

(1) https://www.cbc.ca/lite/news

kamcma 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

NPR has one too: https://text.npr.org

mrkstu 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

CNN: https://lite.cnn.com/

jader201 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> but also navigation and accessibility

Counterpoint, HN is notoriously hard to use on mobile (still better than some, but it's clearly designed for desktop, and not super responsive).

But agreed, that's independent of the slim nature of the webpage (which is still possible with a good mobile UX).

drnick1 11 minutes ago | parent [-]

> Counterpoint, HN is notoriously hard to use on mobile

No it's not, it's perfect on Vanadium with the zoom set to 125%. Much better than some bloated Javascript monstrosity.

qwertox 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've been listening to 32kbit radio streams while on a 64k falloff. It used to be an important feature for me, the 64k up and down. Sounds like nothing, but is usable.

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QuantumNomad_ 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My mobile data plan is like this. It’s funny because when I’m “out of data” my provider sends an SMS suggesting I upgrade to more gigabytes, but then it still continues to work. And yes I checked my bills to make sure that they are not charging me for any usage excess of what’s included in the plan. It’s not even particularly slow. I can still browse the web, send and receive WhatsApp messages, images and videos, watch videos on TikTok etc.

My current plan is 2GB with rollover. Last month I used 2.5GB, and somehow this month has 2GB included + 2GB rollover = 4 GB available which by itself is also weird. Maybe most of the 2.5 GB I used last month was rollover from the month before that or something.

In total I have used 4.6 GB of mobile data so far this month, which is more than the 4 GB (2+2) I have available for this month and it’s still working.

vachina 4 hours ago | parent [-]

There are still telcos offering 2GB plans. Wow. I’m on the cheapest plan and it comes with 400GB.

homebrewer 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Shockingly to some, the level of network development, especially wireless network, is not the same everywhere. Even population density varies greatly. I just checked our operators, the cheapest mobile plan comes at 1 GiB of data per month. Prices climb really fast after that, making 10-15 GiB (or more) too expensive for many, though you can get 5 GiB/mo subsidized for cheap if you have some sort of disability.

jcattle 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Where are you and how much do you pay?

drnick1 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

USA, paying $15/month for the cheapest T-Mobile plan. I only use a few hundred MB per month typically.

M95D 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Cheapest plan here in Romania is 75 GB for 2 euro/month, then the speed is limited to 1 Mbps.

lisdexan 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

More datapoints in USD (Chile) from checking various companies:

150GB-200GB ~15 USD

400GB-450GB ~19-20 USD

Unlimited (without throttling) ~21-27 USD

This is the price after the new client ~20% discount expires (generally 6 months). The unlimited and higher tier usually include stuff like Amazon Prime Videos subscriptions, local IPTV or roaming gigs. All plans obviously include calls and texting.

cbm-vic-20 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Data point: I'm in the US on an old pre-paid plan that gets me 5GB per month at fast speed, dropping down to unlimited "2G" speed after that cap is hit, which I've done only twice in the past 12 years. $30 per month, and I always "bring my own device" (ie, I only buy unlocked phones, not through the carrier). I haven't shopped around for a while.

mikeocool 4 hours ago | parent [-]

You should shop around! Some of the MVNOs are offering unlimited fast data at a similar price these days, and something similar to what you have now for cheaper.

ac29 43 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah I'm on Verizon (via their Visible MVNO) and its ~$23/mo for unlimited data. Zero complaints on coverage or speeds.

simonbw 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I second this! I switched to mint recently. They are offering unlimited data including hotspot for $15/mo for up to a year if you prepay. I think then it goes to their standard rate which is $30/mo for unlimited, or $15/mo for 5gb.

Not sponsored or anything, just a happy customer.

whateveracct 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm in WA - I pay $20/mo for 15GB on Mint Mobile. I used to do $15/mo for 5GB but kept sometimes bumping into it (tethering and stuff) so I just bit the bullet and upgraded.

eterm 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I always think by law any ISP that advertises speed and a has a cap must express the cap in terms of the advertised speed.

So telcos can advertise "Up to 200Mbps" for their package.

But then if they have a 2GB cap, they also need to say, "Caps at 80 seconds of usage".

Because that's what you're paying for at that speed, 80 seconds of usage per month.

Sure, you're not always (or indeed never) doing 200Mbps, but then you're not getting the speed you paid for.

throawayonthe 3 hours ago | parent [-]

i don't think that makes sense, most connections you make never reach 200Mbps because they don't need to

eterm 3 hours ago | parent [-]

That's kind of my point, ISPs use that max speed in their advertising when it isn't really relevant, especially if it hits your cap in a minute or two.

bscphil an hour ago | parent [-]

It is relevant, though. I have 1.2 Gbps down with a 2 TB monthly cap. I've never hit the monthly cap even once, but by your standard I have "1.2 Gbps down for 3 hours, 42 minutes".

But that doesn't change the reality that it matters to me that a 20 GB video that a friend took at my wedding downloads in just 2 minutes rather than the ~30 minutes it would take if I had a 100 Mbps connection.

eterm 36 minutes ago | parent [-]

Right, but 3+ hours of top speed per month is a lot, 80 seconds isn't.

Your cap is over 150 times that equivalent. If you had an 80 second hard cap, you couldn't even download that 20GB video.

tuesdaynight 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I imagine they are not from USA. But it's a surprisingly low plan, even considering that

frognumber 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Years ago, I picked cell carrier because of this. When I ran out, it switched to O(200kbps), which is fine for email, basic web search, etc.

It was actually a bit ironic that, at the time, you could burn through the whole high-speed quota in seconds or minutes, if you went to the wrong web page. Most carriers would stop or bill you an arm-and-a-leg after.

kotaKat 4 hours ago | parent [-]

5G data roaming is hilarious for this. Verizon offered 500MB of high speed data roaming per day in Canada before throttling down to ~128kbps. I ran one single speedtest in the middle of Ottawa on Rogers 5G, didn't even finish the speedtest (hitting an error at the end that it failed), and got the text message going "You've run out of high speed data today. Do you want to buy another 500MB for $5?"

At least it's 2GB/day now. And my 5G roaming is off...

bscphil an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I do think it's vastly superior to preferential treatment for some traffic, which seems to be the most popular alternative. The one caveat is that ISPs need to be forced to be transparent about this. Often, with cell providers, it's "Unlimited 5G" advertised, with a tiny asterisk pointing to even tinier disclaimer text at the bottom explaining that they throttle your rates once you hit a (fairly low) cutoff. That type of misleading marketing undercuts the fairness of the offer.

delichon 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As a residential customer Starlink gave me the unlimited slow speed with a free mini for $60/year, as a tease to promote the full speed at $300/year. But it does everything I need it to, so I'm not incentivized to upgrade. I can listen to YouTube audio, make voip calls, download map tiles or talk with a chatbot without limitations. It's a large quality of life improvement for me because in my rural area there is no cellular connection during most of my driving.

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dyauspitr 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Have they quantified the slow speed? Because when I had Viasat the slow speed so so unbelievably slow it had a hard time loading a regular SPA page in 2-3 minutes.