What would happen to you if you got stopped by 2 cops and you drove into one of them? Just like the lady did.

I have seen people getting killed for less, by cops, too, so I am not shocked at all.

(Yes yes, ICE != cop, that is not the point.)

budududuroiu 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, let's argue a truly hypothetical situation that has no contact with reality.

What you're arguing is that the woman (alive) pointed her car at him with intent to kill, but after the shooting, the woman's corpse was able to steer out of the way of the officer

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packetlost 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Even if the 1st shot through the front of the vehicle is ruled (if it even gets to that point) to be legit, the 2nd and 3rd through the side window almost certainly wouldn't. There's virtually no way this guy walks free if it goes to a fair trial.

If I was on a jury for that case, I'd need some very, very convincing evidence to suggest the officer was in serious fear for his life (or anyone else's) given the publicly available evidence now.

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johnisgood 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I mean, at 03:05 she does drive into him, and I have a feeling she would have ended up dead anyway were it police officers instead of ICE. I have watched LOTS of bodycam footages and it is crazy to me that people get shot in scenarios that does not require lethal force, but people seem to side with the cops. I think neither cops nor ICE should be doing this shit.

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anigbrowl 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The ICE agent decided to use his gun 10 seconds before the shooting, when the car was stationary and he was in a safe location, to the right of it, and well behind the front. We know this because his own cellphone video shows him switching his cellphone into his left hand from his right. After a brief verbal interaction with the departing partner of Renee Good, and seeing her about to get into the vehicle, he chose to walk in front of it (a violation of procedure), with his hand on his service weapon.

She doesn't 'drive into him.' He engineered the situation by deciding to ready his service weapon and then leaving a place of safety to step in front of a vehicle whose occupants were visibly preparing to depart. Perhaps he learned this tactic in Border Patrol, where he used to work:

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/us-border-agents-i...

	▲	johnisgood an hour ago \| parent [-]
		I would have to re-watch carefully a few times, but either way, what you are saying sounds likely. Thanks!

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packetlost 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Again, the first shot could be ruled to be justified, but the second and third were indisputably after the officer was out of harms way.

There's also unanswered questions about jurisdiction and whether the officers were acting within the scope of their duties, which would also be a major factor in the justification for use of force.

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codezero 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It’s police procedure to not stand in front of cars.