Keep your eyes on protecting the midterms from interference... re ICE / militias etc. I encourage governors to call up their State's National Guards to protect their State's electoral systems from Federal intrusion and extremist militia groups. This move is founded in the most republican of urges: State Sovereignty. (btw, I'd even consider that as a move in Minneapolis, right now).

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1123581321 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don’t think National Guard around polling places would be good for turnout. Voting in advance, from home, is a solution already in place for most.

	▲	rich_sasha 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		"Oops, sorry, your postal votes were kept in this warehouse over there. Yeah, the one that went on fire.". There's even a documentary about it called "Succession".

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pjc50 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Do you think the Minneapolis National Guard are willing to fire on ICE if ordered to do so? What do you expect the legal fallout of that situation to be?

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JumpCrisscross 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Do you think the Minneapolis National Guard are willing to fire on ICE if ordered to do so?

As curretly constituted, no. But it doesn't hurt to start contingency planning to build a force that is eventually loyal to its state and the Constitution over the men who hold the office at that time.

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SubiculumCode 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There is a lot of room before that. Rather that the Guard would intervene illegal searches etc, and the inevitable tense ICE - National Guard interaction would change the dynamic, temper ICE's behavior. Moreover, the expected outcome would actually be Trump trying to nationalize that guard, then a constitutional crisis/emergency supreme Court intervention. The most power move that Democrats could make right now is the Republican one: state's rights/ sovereignty

	▲	potato3732842 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I think your assessment is accurate and realistic. But ICE is behaving pretty sloppy. I'm not sure it could get to that point without (just due to risk multiplied by sheer number of interactions) ICE accidentally escalating something via sloppiness, crossing something that they don't value but is a hard line to their local PD security detail, refusing to stop and getting smoked that way, either by their own security or by a passer by while their security shrugs. A fed might not care about literally doing a George Floyd, but your security force might just walk off rather than be party to that.

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empath75 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think that is becoming a less and less ridiculous scenario over time and I hope blue state governors have had long conversations with their national guard leadership about it.

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SpicyLemonZest 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I think the Minnesota National Guard might be willing to fire on masked goons trying to abduct voters from polling stations, regardless of what agency they claim to be from. Even if they're not, their presence might deter the goons from showing up, which I think is a significant risk in the status quo.

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Ancapistani 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm very much present in "right wing circles", and I've seen exactly zero mention of "militias" being involved in anything whatsoever. They are just as politically radioactive as they've always been.

Where are you getting this?

	▲	SubiculumCode 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		When the militias can earn big dollars with zero requirements doing what they already wanted to do by joining ICE, the differences is meaningless.
	▲	JumpCrisscross 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> They are just as politically radioactive as they've always been J6ers attacking cops is currently being celebrated. That's an ad hoc militia. (Tarrio built an actual one.)