| ▲ | newman8r 8 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
If I have an exact idea of what I want something to sound like, and I'm able to use an automated system to create that, is that creative expression? Obviously AI isn't entirely capable of that, but eventually with BCI devices it might be. I've spent many hours learning to play guitar and ukulele but I'm really not very good, and probably never will be - but I can hear the music in my head I want to create. I'm not interested in monetary gain at all, just being able to hear it for real and maybe share it with some people. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | overfeed 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> [...]just being able to hear it for real and maybe share it with some people. Your ability to make and share music as you like hasn't been abridged. Bandcamp has chosen not to be a part of it if it's AI-mediated. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | zdragnar 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> We want musicians to keep making music, and for fans to have confidence that the music they find on Bandcamp was created by humans. It sounds like bandcamp is not the right place for what you want to do. There's plenty of ways to do what you're looking for though! | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | meindnoch 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
>I've spent many hours learning to play guitar and ukulele but I'm really not very good, and probably never will be - but I can hear the music in my head I want to create. I'm not interested in monetary gain at all, just being able to hear it for real and maybe share it with some people. Luckily there are hundreds of MIDI editor DAWs available. Open the piano roll, and write down the music note by note. Surely, it's not that hard if you can hear it in your head. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | themacguffinman 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
AI is not the only way to make synthetic music. If you have an exact idea, you can use virtual instrument plugins for software like Ableton Live to produce music. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | cigar_cigar 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
That's how I feel about it too. I play piano well enough to get my ideas out and have used synthesizers and digital audio workstation software for years. I can sit down and carefully craft the music I have in my mind if I want to. Though I don't often have the time or the mental space to do so. Or, I can make a barebones recording of musical ideas - of melodies, harmonies and the overall song structure - then upload it to Suno and inspire its robotic session musicians to play it in the style I ask. Quicker to make, faster to iterate upon, and can even be used as the basis for resynthesizing the track using more traditional methods. Half-finished tracks, ideas that were only in my mind or existed only as badly recorded piano-bashed drafts, now (almost) fully fleshed out. It's immensely satisfying, and has made me even more creative as I use this tool to understand and explore musical styles I'm less familiar with. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | WCSTombs 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
It sounds to me like you just need to try creating electronic music, not using generative AI. If you really have an exact idea of what the music should sound like, you should be able to realize your vision this way, and you can use realistic instrument samples if you want. It may not sound the way a person would have played it, since you can't fully replace a human performer, but it can still sound really good, and there's a huge body of video game music from the last 30 years or so to vouch for that. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | WD-42 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
People have been doing this for decades already, FL studio, Abelton, etc. Not sure what AI has to do with it. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | csours 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I feel like there's a difference between AI used as a tool and AI used to make slop. Also, most AI music has weird noise in it that drives me insane. I have to imagine* that we will figure out what that difference is, but it will be difficult and costly. * I have to imagine that or else I will lose all hope in the future. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | GuinansEyebrows 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> If I have an exact idea of what I want something to sound like, and I'm able to use an automated system to create that, is that creative expression? i say this without malice (more as an encouragement to you to do whatever you like): nobody cares about your individual consumption choices. if you want to consume content from a machine that produces the thing you want to consume, that in and of itself has no impact on anyone but you. but you might be missing out on good music (either by someone else, or by your own hand) and ultimately, i wonder if you will value the end product of a musical vending machine. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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