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hnlmorg 9 hours ago

If what you’re just concerned about people “baring themselves on camera” then they can continue to do that without emigrating to America and it would still affect your culture. The internet is global after all.

Also, it’s going to take more than a few thousand immigrants a year to affect the culture of a country as populous as America.

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NewJazz 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The internet is global, but having folks in our midst who make a living that way has more of an effect on our culture than if they are just on the internet.

hnlmorg 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Why?

I actually worked in the adult industry earlier in my career so have a better insight than most. and I can tell you that these models are just normal people like you an I. They aren’t interested in corrupting your children nor throwing wild sex parties in public spaces.

NewJazz 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Just because they don't have ill intent doesn't mean the fact that some of the most highly paid members of our society being sex workers sends a message about what kind of skills and assets are valuable, and which aren't as valuable.

hnlmorg 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Unfortunately that ship has already sailed and immigration wasn’t the reason.

It turns out that American citizens can work in the adult industry too and it’s not just immigrants who are capable of earning money from getting naked on camera. ;)

NewJazz 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Isn't that argument just a form of the sunk cost fallacy?

hnlmorg 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Only if you demonise the adult entertainment industry, which I wasn’t.

NewJazz 5 hours ago | parent [-]

That's a non sequiter. You said the "ship has sailed", so we shouldn't attempt to reset norms.

volkk 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

i mean you said it yourself, the internet is global. those few thousand can have impressions of hundreds of millions. whether they do their cam shows abroad or local matters little. it's the inherent incentivization approved by a government that leads to deeper cultural erosion. if you're in a poor country with no access to education, and your only way into the US is porn, then that's what will ultimately win, rather than incentivizing higher education, etc. And before an argument is made that this will just be a way to get in and then those folks will go and seek PHDs and be productive members of society--i have a bridge to sell you.

t-3 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sex sells and everybody knows that. Why should the government use antiquated-at-best moral codes to discriminate against people who will increase the global influence of the country? Cultural exportation and exploitation have been key to US soft power for nearly a century.

volkk 5 hours ago | parent [-]

crack also sells, amongst many other things that are inherently horrible for broad modern society.

> Why should the government use antiquated-at-best moral codes to discriminate against people who will increase the global influence of the country

this is a very loaded statement that assumes that everyone is in agreement that proliferating and rewarding cam models is some kind of inherent good. there's nothing antiquated morally with simply not rewarding it. i'm not stating to ban it outright. there's always use in it at the long tail of society

wredcoll 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It worked for melania!