Mullvad is nothing like Apple. For apple devices: - need real email and real phone number to even boot the device - cannot disable telemetry - app store apps only, even though many key privacy preserving apps are not available - /etc/hosts are not your own, DNS control in general is extremely weak - VPN apps on idevices have artificial holes - can't change push notification provider - can only use webkit for browsers, which lacks many important privacy preserving capabilities - need to use an app you don't trust but want to sandbox it from your real information? Too bad, no way to do so. - the source code is closed so Apple can claim X but do Y, you have no proof that you are secure or private - without control of your OS you are subject to Apple complying with the government and pushing updates to serve them not you, which they are happy to do to make a buck

Mullvad requires nothing but an envelope with cash in it and a hash code and stores nothing. Apple owns you.

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Melatonic 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Agreed on most points but you can setup a pretty solid device wide DNS provider using configuration profiles. Similar to how iOS can be enrolled in work corporate MDM - but under your control.

Works great for me with NextDNS.

Orion browser - while also based on WebKit - is also awesome and has great built in Adblock and supposedly privacy respecting ideals.

	▲	greentea23 8 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Apple has records that you are installing that, probably putting you on a list. And it works until it's made illegal in your country and removed from the app store. You have no guarantees that anything that works today will work tomorrow with Apple. Apple is setting us up to be under a dictator's thumb one conversion at a time.

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MrDarcy 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This comment confuses privacy with anonymity.

	▲	asadotzler 7 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Anonymity is a critical aspect of privacy. If you cannot prevent your name being associated with your data, you do not have real privacy.
	▲	whilenot-dev 10 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Anonymity is an inherent measure to preserve ones individual privacy. What value did you intent to add with your remark?
	▲	greentea23 8 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Not for all points. And not being anonymous means your identity is not private...

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apparent 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You do not need an email address to set up an iPhone, and you do not need an email address or phone number to set up an iPad/Mac.

If you want to use the App Store on these devices, you do need to have an email address.