| ▲ | quitit 12 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
This is a bit of a layer cake: 1. The first issue is that there is significant momentum in calling Siri bad, so even if Apple released a higher quality version it will still be labelled bad. It can enhance the user's life and make their device easier to use, but the overall press will be cherrypicked examples where it did something silly. 2. Basing Siri on Google's Gemini can help to alleviate some of that bad press, since a non-zero share of that doomer commentary comes from brand-loyalists and astroturfing. 3. The final issue is that on-device Siri will never perform like server-based ChatGPT. So in a way it's already going to disappoint some users who don't realise that running something on mobile device hardware is going to have compromises which aren't present on a server farm. To help illustrate that point: We even have the likes of John Gruber making stony-faced comparisons between Apple's on-device image generator toy (one that produces about an image per second) versus OpenAI's server farm-based image generator which makes a single image in about 1-2 minutes. So if a long-running tech blogger can't find charity in those technical limitations, I don't expect users to. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | JohnMakin 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Siri is objectively bad though. It isn't some vendetta. I am disabled and there are at least 50 different things that I'd love siri to do that should be dead simple, yet it cannot. My favorite one was when I suffered a small but not serious fall, decided to test whether siri could be alerted to call 9-11 while being less than 6 feet away from me, absolutely could not understand let alone execute my request. It's a lot of stuff like this. Its core functionality often just does not work. > The final issue is that on-device Siri will never perform like server-based ChatGPT. So in a way it's already going to disappoint some users who don't realise that running something on mobile device hardware is going to have compromises which aren't present on a server farm. For many years, siri requests were sent to an external server. It still sucked. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | apparent 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
There are many people who lament that Siri sucks but would be happy to admit if/when this changes. Even if it goes from super shitty (as evidenced by randomly calling people I have never called/texted when I ask it to call my wife) to "pretty good" I will be the first to admit that it is better. I look forward to it getting better and being able to use it more often. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | mucle6 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
re 3: I doubt Google is going to hand over the weights to Apple to put on device. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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