Why so?

Apple explicitly acknowledged that they were using OpenAI’s GPT models before this, and now they’re quite easily switching to Google’s Gemini

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johnthuss 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The ChatGPT integration was heavily gated by Apple and required explicit opt-in. That won't be the case with the Gemini integration. Apple wants this to just work. The privacy concerns will be mitigated because Apple will be hosting this model themselves in their Private Cloud Compute. This will be a much more tightly integrated solution than ChatGPT was.

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Angostura 13 hours ago | parent [-]

And you don't think they will include an abstraction layer?

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layer8 11 hours ago | parent [-]

An abstraction layer doesn’t prevent Google from seeing the data. Last year the story was that Apple would be running a Google model on their (Apple’s) own server hardware.

	▲	WorldMaker 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		This story says the custom model will run on-device and in Apple's Private Cloud Compute. The implication is that Google will not see the data. The "promise" of Private Cloud Compute is that Apple wants it to be trusted like "on-device". Presumably cutting Google out of getting the data from this is part of why this story first was mentioned last year but is only now sounds close to happening. I think it's the same story/project.
	▲	Angostura 11 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Yes, and that's still the story, as far as I can tell. So an abstraction layer would let them swap out the underlying model

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hu3 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I guess the question is, when are they going to use their own model?

Surely research money is not the problem. Can't be lack of competence either, I think.

	▲	nothercastle 13 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I think they want it to work well with web search. That’s why Google is the obvious choice. Also their ai offering is low risk of getting eliminated where as open ai could fail at any time
	▲	LexGray 12 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		There is just too much money being burned in AI for Apple to keep researchers. Also models have no respect for original art which leads to a branding issue of being a platform for artists. Apple is competent at timing when to step into a market and I would guess they are waiting for AI to evolve beyond being considered untrustworthy slop.
	▲	IOT_Apprentice 12 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		It appears to be lack of competence given they lied about the initial features of Apple Intelligence. First, they touted features that no one actually built and then fired their AI figurehead “leader” who had no coherent execution plan—also, there appears to have been territorial squabbling going on, about who would build what. How on earth did Apple Senior Management allow this to unravel? Too much focus on Services, yet ignoring their absolute failures with Siri and the bullshit that was Apple Intelligence, when AI spending is in the trillions?