| ▲ | GrowingSideways 14 hours ago |
| Why not compile to rust or assembly? C seems like an odd choice. In fact why not simply write rust to begin with? |
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| ▲ | xnacly 14 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Assembly requires way more work than compiling to, say C. Clang and gcc do a lot of the heavy lifting regarding optimisation, spilling values to the stack, etc |
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| ▲ | GrowingSideways 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | Then you're stuck with the C stack, though, and no way to collect garbage. | | |
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| ▲ | saidnooneever 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | really? you cant track and count your pointers in C? why not? | |
| ▲ | UncleEntity 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I have a couple interpreters I've been poking at and one uses 'musttail' while the other uses a trampoline to get around blowing up the C stack when dispatching the operators. As for the GC, the trampoline VM has a full-blown one (with bells-and-whistles like an arena for short lived intermediate results which get pushed/popped by the compiled instructions) while the other (a peg parser VM) just uses an arena as the 'evaluation' is short lived and the output is the only thing really needing tracking so uses reference counting to be (easily) compatible with the Python C-API. No worries about the C stack at all. I mean, I could have used the C stack as the VM's stack but then you have to worry about blowing up the stack, not having access (without a bunch of hackery, looking at you scheme people) to the values on the stack for GC and whatnot and, I imagine, all the other things you have issues with but it's not needed at all, just make your own (or, you know, tail call) and pretend the C one doesn't exist. And I've started on another VM which does the traditional stack thing but it's constrained (by the spec) to have a maximum stack depth so isn't too much trouble. |
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| ▲ | ndr 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| At times people think C is better. See recent discussion about https://sqlite.org/whyc.html |
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| ▲ | dfox 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| If I understand the history correctly then it started as a set of C preprocessor macros. |
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| ▲ | kuttel2 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
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| ▲ | GrowingSideways 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | > C is the patrician's choice. Is this suppose to be a positive thing? I thought we all wanted to violently murder the patricians. Regardless, C might be a valid IR. I apologize for being bigoted. | | |
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