Despite what completely uninformed people may think, the field "computer science" is not about software development. It's a branch of mathematics. If you want an education in software development, those are offered by trade schools.

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AnimalMuppet 8 hours ago | parent [-]

What I want is for universities to offer a degree in Software Engineering. That's a different field from Computer Science.

You say that belongs in a trade school? I might agree, if you think trade schools and not universities should teach electrical engineering, mechanical engineering, and chemical engineering.

But if chemical engineering belongs at a university, so does software engineering.

	▲	collingreen 7 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Plenty of schools offer software engineering degrees alongside computer science, including mine ~20 years ago. The bigger problem when I was there was undergrads (me very much included) not understanding the difference at all when signing up.
	▲	xboxnolifes 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Many do. Though, the one I'm familiar with is basically a CS-lite degree with software specific project design and management courses. Glad I did CS, since SE looked like it consisted of mostly group projects writing 40 pages of UML charts before implementing a CRUD app.
	▲	none2585 7 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Saying this as a software engineer that has a degree in electrical engineering - software "engineering" is definitely not the same as other engineering disciplines and definitely belongs in a trade school.
	▲	pkaye 6 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		My university had Electrical Engineering, Computer Engineering, Software Engineering and Computer Science degrees (in additional to all the other standard ones.)
	▲	mxkopy 8 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Last I checked ASU does, and I’m certain many other universities do too.