| ▲ | cyberax 5 hours ago |
| Keep in mind, that $25k AUD is just $16600. And for that price, you're getting a real car with driver-assist features and a reasonable crash safety rating. The US car manufacturers are cooked. |
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| ▲ | g947o 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| US manufacturers are going to be ok as long as there are policies banning foreign cars and there are tariffs, which is going to be true for a long time. And somehow US consumers feel comfortable paying more for worse cars. |
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| ▲ | senti_sentient 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I had family friends visiting Australia from USA and they were surprised by the sheer number and varieties of Chinese cars on our roads. I too have a BYD Dolphin and Shark, they loved them and felt they’re missing out big time on this. Mind you we have lots of Teslas on the roads as well, but they are bleeding their lead. | | |
| ▲ | AnotherGoodName 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Those Teslas in Australia are Chinese made too of course as are the majority of Teslas globally. USA made really doesn’t exist at all in Australia. It’s merely USA branded. Even the Ford Ranger that’s sold in Australia is made in Thailand. | | |
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| ▲ | polishdude20 25 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Man, living in Canada, I wish we were allowed to import Chinese cars. If America is putting tariffs on us and threatening our sovereignty, that's all the more reason to divest from American made cars. | |
| ▲ | cyberax 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This can't last indefinitely. At some point, the contrast between the US-made and Chinese-made cars will become too great to ignore. We saw that during the 80-s, with the Japanese cars. | | |
| ▲ | expedition32 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Don't Americans like big pickup trucks? Nobody else really drives those in large numbers. | | |
| ▲ | rootusrootus 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yes we do. We have nice big wide roads. Heck, my European immigrant friends love trucks more than natives, in my experience. If you have the space for them, there are some very appealing attributes. My Lightning will carry anything I want, tow big trailers, has huge interior space for the family, will outrun most cars (even many 'fast' ones), and is more fuel efficient than a [non-plugin] Prius. I wouldn't want to own it in a very dense city, but there are only a couple of those in the US. Most US cities even at their densest locations are fine with a half ton. | | |
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| ▲ | rootusrootus 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I think it's a little early to make that claim. Jim Farley is definitely paying attention, for example. He drove a Chinese EV for a year, IIRC, and on many occasions talked bout the challenges of competing with them. I don't know what the real barrier to success will be, but I don't think it will be blindness. It may be difficulty competing on labor cost, but that's a good case for carefully applied tariffs to keep competition fair. |
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| ▲ | WheatMillington 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| US manufacturers are fine because the US has a long history of economic protectionism. These cars are effectively banned in the US due to tariffs which protect US automakers. |
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| ▲ | intrasight 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | More importantly, the US will ban Chinese automation tech. Which is just fine by me. But I drive a 10 year old car. Tariffs alone can't keep out cheap foreign products. |
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| ▲ | aetherspawn 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I heard from a friend he paid around $12k AUD for the cheapest new ICE car, Holden brand, which I guess proves the west can compete if they try? Edit: Holden Spark. |
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| ▲ | vmchale 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > The US car manufacturers are cooked. Biden put a 100% tariff on Chinese cars and then Trump added tariffs on inputs. Americans are getting screwed! |
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| ▲ | plemer 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | We in the US can't hide forever. | | |
| ▲ | intrasight 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Forever is a long time. Once FSD, we will make rules about the software that will have the effect of excluding Chinese companies. I seriously doubt that I'll see Chinese cars here in my lifetime. |
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| ▲ | uyzstvqs 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| That's because it's predatory pricing. If these cars are to be sold in western markets, there needs to be strong regulation. Absolutely no digital data connections, for starters. |
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| ▲ | m4ck_ 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | that should really apply to all vehicles, because I'm pretty sure there isn't a new vehicle on the market in the US that doesn't have surveillance tech built in. |
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