I've struggled with this over the years, but think we can call it at this point: Waymo is definitely better.

Just too much real world data.

(i.e. scaled paid service, no drivers, multiple cities, for 1 year+)

terminalshort 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Is it really comparable, though? What is better a Ferrari or a Ford Ranger? That depends on if you are trying to go fast or haul 500 lbs of stuff across town. Waymo is a much better completely autonomous robo taxi in limited areas mapped to the mm, but if I want an autonomous driving system for my personal car to go wherever I want, Tesla FSD is the better option.

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iknowstuff 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Waymo is fully autonomous, FSD is an adas for consumers.

Robotaxi is a separate product. They are fantastic at driving but until they remove supervisors it’s a moot comparison

	▲	refulgentis 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Ah, I see. ADAS as in "assistance on a car I can buy", makes sense.

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DustinBrett 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

We being who? What is your evidence it's better? The fact all the cars stopped moving when the power went out? The fact they cost WayMore? Show the evidence for your claims. And they have remote operators as proven by the power outage.

	▲	refulgentis 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Apologies, I was unclear with the "i.e." bit I assume, to spell it out: I think after struggling with it over years its time to call it because Waymo has a scaled paid service, no drivers, multiple cities, for 1 year+.