Again they aren't the same product. Everyone always thinks power is only about $/kwh especially in hackernews. That is a strong proponent of the product but most definitely not all of it. Solar just does not work for large scale industrial uses cases (99.99% uptime). Even with massive energy storage to try and cover the edges. Its a great combo but not comparable.

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ViewTrick1002 7 hours ago | parent [-]

How does your "large scale industrial use case" deal with 50% of the French nuclear fleet being offline?

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/15/business/nuclear-power-fr...

Or 50% of the Swedish fleet two times this year being offline?

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realusername 7 hours ago | parent [-]

At the same time it happened, the french solar was 92% offline and the french wind generation was 81% offline.

Maybe we should get the opposite conclusion from this incident.

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ViewTrick1002 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Based on yearly average capacity factor?

Since that incident storage has been scaling massively. How does a nuclear plant compete with zero marginal cost renewables?

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-Quiet-Unravel...

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Moldoteck 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

by providing firm power.

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realusername 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Based on if it would run at full capacity like a plant would yes.

And no, storage hasn't scale at all yet, it would need a 100x increase before being useful for such events.

The proof is in the pudding anyways, if that works so well, why nobody does it?

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lostlogin 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Nobody does what? Solar installs are way way up.

	▲	realusername 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Nobody does a storage based solar grid at a country scale.