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testing22321 5 hours ago

So you don’t like big corps getting ever richer by hiding behind copyright.

How about my books?

I’ve published a few, make maybe $500 a month from them.

Is it fine for the LLMs to rip them off?

Altern4tiveAcc 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Is it fine for the LLMs to rip them off?

Yes. It is good (and IMO should be encouraged) that derivative works can are made, even if it would make you less money.

senko 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

1. Will people stop buying your books if LLMs have the information from them?

2. Will people stop buying your books if they can get them from the library? Is a library ripping you off?

3. Assuming your books are non-fiction (otherwise the answer to (1) would be a clear "no"), am I ripping you off if I read your books, create a course that teaches the same things (that you tought me through your book) and earn mega-money because I'm mega-skilled at marketing?

4. How about if I lend my copy to dozens of my friends, who are all very interested in the stuff you write but don't want to pay themselves?

5. Did OpenAI go to the bookstore, buy your book and scan it? Or did Amazon or any other ebook retailer just gave them the book PDF when they asked nicely? How did the rip off happen?

6. If an Anthropic employee buys your book in a bookstore, scans it and destroys the physical copy, and the digital equivalent is only used to train Claude, is that a ripoff?

This stuff is complex and as a society we're just starting to grapple with the consequences. Cory's making the case against copyright being used as a tool much more eloquently than I am - I encourage you to read it if you haven't already.

BTW in your particular case, I'd say you're pretty safe. Nobody stops buying books because they can get the same info from LLMs. If that's your concern, you might as well be mad at the Internet at large.

GlacierFox 4 hours ago | parent [-]

So this logic is essentially: Look at all these ways you're already getting ripped off. What's one more?! You should be grateful they're siphoning off all your work!

You've got a convert here. I don't think I'll publish my next book. I might just email it straight to Open AI.

And Cory Doctorow - I've attempted a few of his books. Felt like I was reading young adult fiction. He's pretty much the '2 prescient statements and a few average books' guy.