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PLenz 13 hours ago

This kinda of article is exactly what the internet was made for. More of this, less AI

ronsor 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's funny how people are compelled to virtue signal about AI in almost every thread. It's not even on-topic.

undeveloper 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

half of HN is ai related, people can be fed up

lmz 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Maybe someone made a bot to complain about AI and farm karma points?

wat10000 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is signaling someone else’s virtue, which is a good way to get more virtuous behavior.

moralestapia 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I agree, it's the tech equivalent of "I'm vegan".

squigz 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Downvote/flag and move on.

TechSquidTV 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Has to be a condition of some kind

jennyholzer6 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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echelon 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> More of this, less AI

The comment was great without this part.

I'm sorry I'm going to go on a rant, but seeing this day in and day out really gets to me.

I'm a filmmaker. AI is an incredible tool that is making VFX affordable to those of us with budgets.

My friends and I are already using it in roto/comp workflows:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tii9uF0nAx4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj-dJvGVb-w

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m6eUR5V55QXA9p6SLuCM8LdFMBq... (NSFW, bloody/gory - the effects look bad because we did this for a "film hackathon" and had an extremely short amount of time with no chance to fix the editing, script, lack of locations, etc. Under four hours for the VFX work.)

Corridor Crew are making incredible stuff and teaching people how to do it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSRrSO7QhXY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVT3WUa-48Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq5JaG53dho

There's so much use by actual artists. I don't have a list in front of me, but I'll start compiling that to share next time this comes up.

I am really salty about this because I am receiving hate and death threats because of this. I've had a film of mine booed in a live theater because I worked on a Blender + Mocap + AnimateDiff short film. I'm deep in the Atlanta film scene. I know a lot of the people that were in the audience personally. This was fresh off of the strikes, and the looming AI fears had people worried, so I understood the apprehension. But it still sucks to have your hard work and labor shunned like that in person. In any case, I won an award for that film. A year later, I did the same thing and everyone clapped. (It's not in my portfolio. I left a link in one of my previous comments if you care to dig.)

It's super easy to say "AI sucks", "AI bros", "kill AI artist", etc., but it misses all of the hard work being done by those using the tools.

I one day hope to have our small studio making high fantasy and science fiction films. I covet the art direction of Denis Villeneuve and Peter Jackson. I always have. My director friends that went to film school hoped to make films like that when they were younger, as I did I. The industry is very pyramid shaped, and unless you get really lucky or have nepo baby connections, you'll never get the chance to helm a project like that.

Tens of thousands of students go to film school every year, yet most of their dreams wither on the vine. That's incredibly sad. We only get a small slice of human creativity, and what we do see is usually pretty generic.

We have our Arris - that part has been democratized for a while. We have distribution. But we could never afford a $100 million VFX budget. AI changes the game and gives us so much hope that we can finally tell the stories we really want to tell in the way that we want to tell them.

Instead of thinking of AI as "just prompting", think of it as an exoskeleton for practitioners. One analogy is that cameras can be used by anyone to make all kinds of junk - selfies, food pics, "butt dialed" accidental shots. Yet professional photographers are capable of making incredibly captivating art and immortalizing Pulitzer Prize winning moments.

There are AI coding assistants for people who can't code (and I think this is awesome for accessibility and letting people act on their dreams - it's a gateway!), and there are AI coding models for full-time engineers. It's a lot like that.

I've made a lot of experiments in this space. Huge ComfyUI workflows, custom trained models frankensteined from stitched together modules, a lot of Unreal and Blender-inspired work.

I'm currently working on this [1] to enhance my own work. My desire right now is making it really fast to visually mold starting frames (which are like a director and DP blocking out scenes before shooting) and to precisely get the image you want before generating it.

This year I'm going to make full AI animations as well as a bunch of rotoscoped human + AI films this year. This stuff is going to be amazing for horror, sci-fi, and fantasy with live human actors. Those low-budget Blumhouse films are about to get real, and we're going to start seeing Lovecraftian horrors and actually good dinosaur movies soon. I'm really excited for this.

So I guess to return to my point, please please please don't hate all AI or especially insult people using it. This technology isn't distributed evenly, and in some pockets it's literally the most magical thing to have happened to the space. I wish I had this when I was much younger - my career would have looked a lot different. I'm really happy for the kids that get to grow up using this.

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Anyway, I came to this article because I love Smash. It's a fantastic article and the author did an amazing job compiling this. I mostly play "no items", but I did see these on rare occasions. It's funny how nostalgia can be triggered by low resolution billboard textures from Melee.

Sakurai, director of the game, is bullish on AI for game development [2]. I think he's thinking the same way we are - this is a creative exoskeleton letting us do more and achieve more of our vision against the friction of constraints.

Invariably the comments (probably from non-artist consumers?) is full of hate. Many artists want to use this, yet we're bullied and hated for it.

This one, jeez:

> Dude's a hack and hasn't made a good game since Melee.

This is the same bullshit I'm getting on a daily basis. The hate we get online is unreal. You have to see it to believe it. I'm talking death threats on a regularly recurring basis. I should blog about it.

So please internalize this plea. Whenever you see attacks like this, please say something to remind the other person that we're all human and that real artists are using these tools to make real art.

[1] https://github.com/storytold/artcraft

[2] https://www.resetera.com/threads/masahiro-sakurai-believes-g...

fenwick67 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

To act like you can't make a film on a budget without AI is absurd

immibis 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I hear it used to be possible, back in the 2020s.

But ever since the YouWatch app came out in 2029, consumers could just say what they wanted to watch and get a personalized film tailored to their exact personality type. You just couldn't make money with single-version films any more, and nobody did. They shut down all the film schools, and destroyed all the archived knowledge online.

It was hard to get your hands on a camera anyway, after the passage of the Protecting Children And Securing American Economic Development Act (BIGGEST PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST Act) in Donald Trump's fourth term, which criminalised possession of a computing device capable of supporting independent thinking.

echelon 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I want to make films that look like Denis Villeneuve's Dune. (Just to cite one example, not that I'm interested in replicating his style.) How am I supposed to do that?

You know what my sci-fi films look like? This is one of my productions, and it cost over $10,000 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-24s-AmqR5k (I don't even have a real link to the finished film, apparently. I don't typically do sci-fi because it's so inaccessible to do the things we want to do.)

We actually did a bunch of rotoscoping and VFX work for this. It was not bad for our budget, but I'm so tired of this. I have always dreamed of having my films look exactly like what I see in my mind's eye.

Why should I have constraints, and why should my audience dictate my constraints? It's my life, and I have a desire for my own creative output. My number one judge is myself, not you or anyone else. I make things to satisfy me.

I'm especially disheartened (?) angered (?) by non-artists stepping in to tell me this. People who haven't spent ten thousand hours on it.

fenwick67 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> I want to make films that look like Denis Villeneuve's Dune. (Just to cite one example, not that I'm interested in replicating his style.) How am I supposed to do that?

As an artist you should know that being able to achieve whatever you want with whatever level of effort you want and get the reception you want is often not achievable

echelon 10 hours ago | parent [-]

> As an artist you should know that being able to achieve whatever you want with whatever level of effort you want and get the reception you want is often not achievable

I love being told this over and over.

> the reception you want

I'm doing this for me. I live my life for me.

I'm lucky that I get to make friends and meet amazing collaborators in this journey.

fenwick67 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Then what is your objection. You're doing it

parasti 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The tech that you are defending is going to put your profession out of work. If you can write a prompt that gets you exactly what you have imagined for your movie, then your entire craft has been obsoleted and can now be achieved by anyone with an imagination (or even without).

ericd 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Thanks for sharing. I’m really looking forward to a Cambrian explosion of weird little movies like Kung Fury as the costs of VFX shrink. I’m sure that there will be a ton of garbage, but that also means more gems that would’ve never been made if they had to raise money from bean counters.

echelon 11 hours ago | parent [-]

> Kung Fury

Kung Fury is one of my favorite films!

Did you see the "trailer" for the sequel? [1] It looks so good! It's a shame that legal shenanigans are all that are holding it up [2].

You're absolutely right about this. We're going to see so many different kinds of small-studio films. Everything from Yorgos Lanthimos to Charlie Kaufman to Denis Villeneuve and back.

I expect lots of things we've never even seen before.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQRuka2aJy4 (warning, it's 10 minutes and full of HUGE spoilers revealing the entire plot and twists.)

[2] https://variety.com/2025/film/global/kung-fury-director-lega...

ericd 2 hours ago | parent [-]

lol that was amazing and absurd, don’t know how I missed that, thanks! Sad to hear it’s stuck in legal limbo, though, that is a shame - it looks like they poured a ton of passion into it.

jsheard 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Sakurai, director of the game, is bullish on AI for game development [2]

Your source is based on machine translation, and professional translators pushed back on the interpretation that he is enthusiastic about genAI. Apparently it came across more as resignation that AAA developers may be forced to resort to genAI in order to sustain the endless scope creep and content bloat endemic in the AAA space, which has led to the current absurdity of it taking an entire decade to make a new GTA game.

https://kotaku.com/ai-translation-of-smash-bros-directors-co...

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embedding-shape 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Unfortunately for you, this sort of comment is exactly what HN was not made for. Less of that, more thoughtful and substantive comments.