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Why Object of Arrays beat interleaved arrays: a JavaScript performance issue(royalbhati.com)
32 points by howToTestFE 7 days ago | 13 comments
andersa 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I had a similar problem when I was making a tool processing a lot of data in the browser. I'd naively made a large array of identical objects each holding a bunch of fields with numbers.

Turns out, this works completely fine in Firefox. However, in Chrome, it produces millions of individual HeapNumber allocations (why is that a thing??) in addition to the objects and uses GBs of RAM, and is slow to access, making the whole thing unusable.

Replacing it with a SoA structure using TypedArray made it fast in both browsers and fixed the memory overhead in Chrome.

As someone more familiar with systems programming than web, the concept of creating individual heap allocations for a single double baffles me beyond belief. What were they thinking?

kg 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah, this is a historical design difference between Firefox's Spidermonkey JS engine and Chrome's V8.

Spidermonkey uses (I'm simplifying here, there are cases where this isn't true) a trick where all values are 64-bits, and for anything that isn't a double-precision float they smuggle it inside of the bits of a NaN. This means that you can store a double, a float32, an int, or an object pointer all in a field of the same size. Great, but creates some problems and complications for asm.js/wasm because you can't rely on all the bits of a NaN surviving a trip through the JS engine.

V8 instead allocates doubles on the heap. I forget the exact historical reason why they do this. IIRC they also do some fancy stuff with integers - if your integer is 31 bits or less it counts as a "smi" in that engine, or small int, and gets special performance treatment. So letting your integers get too big is also a performance trap, not just having double-precision numbers.

EDIT: I found something just now that suggests Smis are now 32-bits instead of 31-bits in 64-bit builds of v8, so that's cool!

Koffiepoeder an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

For those interested in browser differences, on my machine:

Firefox

  AoS: 2951.00ms
  SoA: 1624.00ms
  Interleaved: 1961.00ms
Chrome

  AoS:         2133.30ms
  SoA:         884.30ms
  Interleaved: 1457.60ms
Seems the interleaved being slower is consistent across browsers!
gethly 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

SoA is nothing new. Not sure why it needs to be even discussed...

Anyway, here's few videos of interest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwkuAqObplU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IroPQ150F6c

Odin also supports SoA natively https://odin-lang.org/docs/overview/#soa-data-types

saghm 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Eliminating per-element object overhead — This is the biggest win (~5-6x)

I feel like this phrasing might be easy to misinterpret. Without carefully considering the context, it seems like it's implying that objects have higher overhead than arrays, and my intuition is that this is true, but I'd argue that there's a potentially more relevant way of looking at things.

In the "object of arrays" layout, you have one object and three arrays, but in the "array of objects" layout, you have one array and N objects, where N is the size of the array. Even if the overhead of objects was the same as can array, you'd be looking at more overhead as soon as you went past three elements. In fact, even if the overhead of an object was lower than the overhead of an array, you'd still reach more overhead with the "array of objects" layout if you have enough elements to make up for the difference. With a TypedArray (or an array of a single type that's optimized by the runtime in the way described fairly early on in the article), you're not looking at an extra level of indirection per element like you would with an object.

I'd be curious to see what the results would be if they repeated the "array of objects" benchmark with an "array of arrays", where each element is an array of size 3. I could imagine them being quite similar, but I'm also not sure if there's even more nuance that I'm falling to account for (e.g. maybe the runtime would recognize that an array of N/3 elements each being an array of 3 numbers could be "flattened" to an underlying representation of array of size N in memory and perform the same optimizations.

I think the meta lesson here may be that intuition about performance of arrays in JavaScript might be pretty tricky. At least in terms of external semantics, they're supposed to be roughly equivalent to objects with numbers as keys, but in practice there are probably enough optimizations being done (like the implicit recognition of an array of numbers as described in the article) that I suspect that intuition might be a bit naive in a lot of cases, and it's probably better to verify what's actually happening at runtime rather than trying to guess. (The meta meta lesson is that this is true for a lot of things in pretty much every language, and it's sometimes going to be necessary to verify your assumptions about what performance will be, but I think that's something easy to fail to do even when you're aware of it being an easy trap, so having some general things to look out for like arrays potentially not being intuitive can still be helpful).

mr_toad 6 hours ago | parent [-]

> I'd be curious to see what the results would be if they repeated the "array of objects" benchmark with an "array of arrays"

Arrays are objects, so I’d be surprised if it made much difference.

saghm 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Much of a difference from which, the array of objects or an object containing arrays? The article points out at least one major optimization that the runtime performs on arrays that doesn't (and as I understand it, can't) exist for objects. My point is that it's not obvious whether there are others, and if so, where they might apply.

Pretty much the entire last paragraph of my comment that you responded to is an argument that it's potentially wrong to just naively assume "arrays are just objects". It's not clear to me why you're confident that this is wrong without giving any additional context that clarifies whether you've actually considered that possibility or not.

mr_toad 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I mean if you replaced an array of one million objects with an array of one million arrays you’d probably end up with similar performance.

The article is discussing how you get better performance from having arrays with one million primitives. It’s not at all surprising that this is faster.

anematode 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Sometimes even SIMD (eez nuts?)

I'm a bit rusty here, does V8 actually do auto-vectorization of JavaScript code these days?

adzm 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't think v8 does any auto-vectorization unless it's been added since 2024 which was the last time I checked.

anematode 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Thanks! That tracks; ~a year ago I tried fruitlessly to get some numerical stuff to vectorize in Node.js... gave up and switched to WASM SIMD.

jonny_eh 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> This test is a manufactured problem, a silly premise, false test cases and honestly dishonest if not ignorant

It’s amazing how vitriolicly wrong people can be. Before publicly criticizing someone in the above way, prove them wrong first. Don’t just assume they’re wrong.

cheevly 6 hours ago | parent [-]

But only llms hallucinate!