> I think there is a section of programmer who actually do like the actual typing of letters, numbers and special characters into a computer, and for them, I understand LLMs remove the fun part.

Exactly me.

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etra0 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Same for me, sadly.

One of the reasons why I learned vim was because I enjoy staying in the keyboard; I'm a fast typer and part of the fun is typing out the code I'm thinking.

I can see how some folks only really like seeing the final product rather than the process of building it but I'm just not cut for that — I hate entrepreneurship for the same reason, I enjoy the building part more than the end.

And it's the part that's killing me with all this hype.

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tarsinge 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Conversely I have very little interest in the process of programming by itself, all the magic is about the end result and the business value for me (which fortunately has served me quite well professionally). As young as I remember I was fascinated with the GUI DBMS (4th Dimension/FileMaker/MS Access/…) my dad used to improve his small business. I only got into programming only to not be limited by graphical tools. So LLMs for me are just a nice addition in my toolbox, like a power tool is to a manual one. It doesn’t philosophically changes anything.

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judahmeek 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's because physical programming ing is a ritual.

I'm not entirely sure what that means myself, so please speak up if my statement resonates with you.

	▲	kaffekaka 7 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		It resonates. But as I see it, that kind of ritual I rather devote myself to at home. At work, the more efficient and rapidly we can get stuff dobe, the better. Drawing and painting is a ritual to me as well. No one pays me for it and I am happy about that.
	▲	hackable_sand 9 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Corporations trying to "invent" agi is like that boss in bloodborne

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amelius 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Same. However, for me the fun in programming was always a kind of trap that kept me from doing more challenging things.

Now the fun is gone, maybe I can do more important work.

	▲	DrewADesign 14 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		You might be surprised to find out how much of your motivation to do any of it at all was tied to your enjoyment, and that’s much more difficult to overcome than people realize.
	▲	12_throw_away 8 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		> Now the fun is gone, maybe I can do more important work. This is a very sad, bleak, and utilitarian view of "work." It is also simply not how humans operate. Even if you only care about the product, humans that enjoy and take pride in what they're doing almost invariably produce better products that their customers like more.
	▲	hxugufjfjf 11 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		My problem was the exact opposite. I wanted to deliver but the dislike of the actual programming / typing code prevented me from doing so. AI has solved this for me.